What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

I'm not afraid of normal carbon build up. It is normal as it gets in a 2 stroke. The whole rpm thing about the Kl 200 had me a little worried but Redbulls' email and more thinking about a 2 stroke saw vs a 2 stroke bike just amplifies that even though they share the same mechanics they are still drastically different. I mean even at a high rpm in wood the fuel/oil is replaced in a smaller cylinder that maybe??? IDK my head hurts and the only way we will find these answers out is to test more saws and oils out.

What may work in the 7900 may be to much for a ported 441

I see normal carbon on the crown as a sign that u r tuned and achieving as close to complete combustion as possible. Wet and clean tells me the combustion process is out of wack

 

[CR500]

What do you guys use to clean piston crowns? red scotchbritre????

 

[jmssaws]

how much cleaner would klotz r50 run if mixed at 50:1 or any klotz for that matter.

Lots cleaner, 50:1 is more than enough oil with klotz.

 

[jmssaws]

What do you guys use to clean piston crowns? red scotchbritre????

I use 3M wheels on my bench motor but a wire wheel works fine.

 

[Keith Gandy]

I use 3M wheels on my bench motor but a wire wheel works fine.

I use wire wheel on grinder also Jason. Quick and easy

 

[CR500]

so a red or blue 3m pad on die grinder would be sufficient?

going to pick up some super tech tomorrow along with benol

 

[junkman]

How does your guys weed eaters run off the bike oil ? Mine runs like crap off most brands ,stuff is too heavy for it ,my thinking ,if it wont tune in my other ope it is not going to give the best tune in my saws.

 

[jmssaws]

My ported fs250 runs fine on my saw gas.

 

[stihl saws]

How does your guys weed eaters run off the bike oil ? Mine runs like crap off most brands ,stuff is too heavy for it ,my thinking ,if it wont tune in my other ope it is not going to give the best tune in my saws.

I've tried trimmers on Maxima 927 and Bel-ray mc-1. 927 is horrible, mc-1 is decent. I don't think a lot of these better bike oils can combust completely in small equipment.

 

[Keith Gandy]

How does your guys weed eaters run off the bike oil ? Mine runs like crap off most brands ,stuff is too heavy for it ,my thinking ,if it wont tune in my other ope it is not going to give the best tune in my saws.

Lately ive ran the br600 blower, shidiawa 270 brush cutter, all saws, and my echo trimmer all on 87 efree with Klotz Super @ 40to1. No problems

 

[Ron660]

This is my reasoning. The short stroke in these chainsaws already have a hard enough time burning the oil off like it needs to produce the most energy in the short time it has to do so. Lower octane ignites quicker which gives the charge coming in more time to try and achieve complete combustion and also why we advance the timing to give the combustion if u will a head start. Higher octane does just the opposite. An oil that resists burning off works against what the combustion process is trying to achieve to start with. If the topend is soaking wet with unburn oil that is like pouring water on a fire and working against the combustion process. The bottomend, piston skirts, cylinder walls , rings should be wet and not the top of the piston, combustion chamber , and exhaust port/muffler. All thoso should be dry and alil carbon is a sign that the combustion process has done what its suppose to. Thats my view anyway

Since you're not an engineer, testing fuels or oils for performance is simple. You're making this more complicated than needed. Make several cuts with difference octanes or oils. Repeat then repeat again. If the results are the same you have a valid conclusion. You can theorize forever but testing will only answer your questions. An autotune or mtronic saw would be ideal. Maybe Redbull would be nice enough to test more oils or octanes with timed cuts.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Since you're not an engineer, testing fuels or oils for performance is simple. You're making this more complicated than needed. Make several cuts with difference octanes or oils. Repeat then repeat again. If the results are the same you have a valid conclusion. You can theorize forever but testing will only answer your questions. An autotune or mtronic saw would be ideal. Maybe Redbull would be nice enough to test more oils or octanes with timed cuts.

Thoso statements I made ole buddy r facts not theory. Maybe u should listen every once in awhile instead of disagreeing and trying to prove me wrong. Read the post and think about it instead of being so closed minded

 

[Keith Gandy]

Since you're not an engineer, testing fuels or oils for performance is simple. You're making this more complicated than needed. Make several cuts with difference octanes or oils. Repeat then repeat again. If the results are the same you have a valid conclusion. You can theorize forever but testing will only answer your questions. An autotune or mtronic saw would be ideal. Maybe Redbull would be nice enough to test more oils or octanes with timed cuts.

What I do know is making 3 or 4 lil cuts with 2 different octanes like I did in my test didnt prove anything except that it doesnt take an engineer or a scientist to figure out my test was a waste of time. U will no doubt need more than u did in the 110 vs 94 test to prove to anybody that high octane produces more power in these saws which I think we r pissing into the wind trying to say higher octane is needed in these saw. I know better and Chads dyno pretty much proved it. I will say on fuels Im alil more concerned with quality instead of octanes

 

[huskihl]

Sounds like you 2 are getting cabin fever. Still raining like hell? I saw some pics. Not too pretty down there. Hope yall are dry

 

[Keith Gandy]

Sounds like you 2 are getting cabin fever. Still raining like hell? I saw some pics. Not too pretty down there. Hope yall are dry

Its not pretty with all this water. A guy I work with said gauge said 17.5" of rain so far

 

[jake wells]

well since it is flooded down there why not do some oil testing on your fishing boat.

 

[darkimpulse]

On a different note I was interested in Amsoil so I went on their site and asked for a catalog to be sent to me. They paid $3.02 US to send it to me plus a promo code for a discount on an order. Needless to say I am impressed that they would go that far to do that. Time to order some sabre now.

 

[jake wells]

i will stick with supertech it does just as good as amsoil to me.

 

[skidooguy]

I've ran saber for years in saws and other ope and have been more satisfied with it than anything else I have ran. It isn't expensive compared to a lot of other oils either. At least where I'm at.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Sounds like you 2 are getting cabin fever. Still raining like hell? I saw some pics. Not too pretty down there. Hope yall are dry

This is the entrance to our home town Natchitoches, La.