What oil is best? and what ratio?

[danimal]

Saber @ 40-1 keeps saw guts suprisingly wet.. I ported two stihls for a fella-thats the ratio he runs. Clean and well lubed inside..
I normally recommend 32-1 on hotrodded saws.

 

[bwalker]

FWOW the original Red Armour was a pretty unique oil and appeared to work really well, although I never ran it long enough to say for certain. It was ridiculously expensive.
Currently its formulated just like many other FD oils and is nothing special, yet the price never came down. The old bait and switch.

 

[Chainganger]

Yep, that is what I read between the lines!
And the Schaefer’s 9000 says it meets or exceeds FD rating but I am not sure it was actually sent in for testing.

 

[bwalker]

Yep, that is what I read between the lines!
And the Schaefer’s 9000 says it meets or exceeds FD rating but I am not sure it was actually sent in for testing.

Schaeffers is a ashless marine oil and can not pass the FD tests. There is not a single oil that's actually certified that is an ashless formulation. Further, both the OPE OEM's and Schaeffers say not to use it in an application like a chainsaw.

 

[bwalker]

Looking at a friends Yamaha Banshee tonight that ate a mag side crank bearing. The cause was likely corrosion. It sat over the winter in his un heated garage with no fogging oil. The crank lobes where rusted on the mag side as well. Ran since new on Klotz Super Techniplate.
One has to be really careful with these ester and castor based oils as they have no corrosion prote tion and actually attract water out of the air.

 

[andyshine77]

Klotz Super is not recommended as a storage lubricant, so no surprise there Ben.

 

[bwalker]

Klotz Super is not recommended as a storage lubricant, so no surprise there Ben.

I wasnt supprised either.
I would not be supprised if R50 or Mobil MX2T did the exact same thing.
FWIW this was in Montana where the climate is bone dry compared to the eastern US.

 

[Hinerman]

I wasnt supprised either.
I would not be supprised if R50 or Mobil MX2T did the exact same thing.
FWIW this was in Montana where the climate is bone dry compared to the eastern US.

What oil do you like to use in your chainsaws?

 

[Finnrpm]

Looking at a friends Yamaha Banshee tonight that ate a mag side crank bearing. The cause was likely corrosion. It sat over the winter in his un heated garage with no fogging oil. The crank lobes where rusted on the mag side as well. Ran since new on Klotz Super Techniplate.
One has to be really careful with these ester and castor based oils as they have no corrosion prote tion and actually attract water out of the air.

Just curious, was the owner using only ethanol free gas? Water contaminated gasoline would contribute to the matter even if you would have strong corrosion protection added for the oil used.
RV

 

[bwalker]

Just curious, was the owner using only ethanol free gas? Water contaminated gasoline would contribute to the matter even if you would have strong corrosion protection added for the oil used.
RV

Yes, E free only. But your right, ethanol can cause issues like this as well because it attracts water just like ester and castor based oils.

 

[bwalker]

What oil do you like to use in your chainsaws?

I use Maxima K2, and Yamalube 2R mostly in my OPE. There are other good choices too, it's just that's what I use in my bikes so it's easy to use the same gas.

 

[andyshine77]

Can't go wrong with K2, I'm liking Honda HP2 as well.

 

[Hinerman]

I’m not loyal to any oil. I’ve tried several. Here’s my latest purchase:

 

[bwalker]

Attn: Redbull. Here is some info you might find interesting.

 

[shadco]

Attn: Redbull. Here is some info you might find interesting.
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They banned the use of Blendzall Gold when I was racing MX back in the mid 70's, you couldn't really hide that you were using it either due to the attractive aroma.

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[smokey7]

So this blendzall was a nitro additive to be put in the gas/mix of a engine? But yes I'd bet it would stick a stock engine on stock jets on the dyno.

 

[bwalker]

Klotz Nitro is what stuck the engine and I believe its Nitro Propane. Klotz made another power additive back in the day called Coxoc. Not sure if they still sell it.

 

[shadco]

So this blendzall was a nitro additive to be put in the gas/mix of a engine? But yes I'd bet it would stick a stock engine on stock jets on the dyno.

Bean oil with nitro added.

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[bwalker]

This piston is from a high hour 4 mil stroker,
bigbore Yamaha Banshee engine ran on Klotz Super Techniplate its whole life.
Anyone see any problems?

 

[RI Chevy]

All depends how it was tuned, NO?