What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

I think most of these oils will work but it takes alil obsession to get them dialed in to your saw and load so they perform correctly

 

[jakethesnake]

I'm disappointed! After 604 pages we still haven't figured this out.
Obviously Yamaha R2 at 42:1 is the best because that's what I use.

I'm sold

 

[Greenerpastures]

I think most of these oils will work but it takes alil obsession to get them dialed in to your saw and load so they perform correctly

Agreed, its good to know what oils have what properties,
and use that informaton to get your saw running the way
it will last as opposed to seize up for lack of lube, of courese
the tunning has to be right too, else oil still may not get there
in the right quantity.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Agreed, its good to know what oils have what properties,
and use that informaton to get your saw running the way
it will last as opposed to seize up for lack of lube, of courese
the tunning has to be right too, else oil still may not get there
in the right quantity.

I agree. The piston crown will tell alot. Alil light brown carbon tells me its still alil rich, dark black carbon pretty lean and gettin most of the usable power from complete combustion and no carbon is really rich with low temp

 

[Greenerpastures]

Saws are very low HP to CC compared to s bike of the same size. 1/3 or so.

Probably because saws engines need to be small by nature,
and they also miss out on all the cooling from hurtling through the air.
The EPA are killing the saws, they cant breathe, stuffed up so they
make the grade, great idea all right, keep the crap in the saw to save
the environment, and make a new one at even more environmental cost
to replace it when it dies a premature death.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Probably because saws engines need to be small by nature,
and they also miss out on all the cooling from hurtling through the air.
The EPA are killing the saws, they cant breathe, stuffed up so they
make the grade, great idea all right, keep the crap in the saw to save
the environment, and make a new one at even more environmental cost
to replace it when it dies a premature death.

I definetely agree that they arent being tuned by the electronics to live a long life

 

[Greenerpastures]

I agree. The piston crown will tell alot. Alil light brown carbon tells me its still alil rich, dark black carbon pretty lean and gettin most of the usable power from complete combustion and no carbon is really rich with low temp

I look at the plug, and it tells me if I need to look at the piston top,
I do anyway. I cut a full day on my Shinny 490, doing work the 6100 was
lined up to do, and the piston top is spotless clean.
I know its rich, and I wouldnt have it any other way, but its not mental rich,
that brings other problems, and she runs nice and cool, summer will heat her
up without me having to change anything, it was quite cold with a fierce wind
that day, hair blowing backways, sawdust like snow, so all in all, she is good to go.

 

[RI Chevy]

Using Red Armor Keith?

 

[Keith Gandy]

Using Red Armor Keith?

Using alil of it all. KL200, Dolmar synthetic, and Red Armor. I have enough of thoso 3 to last about 15yrs!!

 

[Dub11]

Saws are very low HP to CC compared to s bike of the same size. 1/3 or so.

Man were getting gipped

 

[Keith Gandy]

Man were getting gipped

Only positive to these saws r they can be woods ported and ran on 87 octane without detonating because the stroke is so short and compression ratio is low

 

[RI Chevy]

I thought 1 HP per CI was good? [emoji2]

 

[Dub11]

I thought 1 HP per CI was good? [emoji2]

In the four stroke world it is.

 

[Greenerpastures]

I thought 1 HP per CI was good? [emoji2]

Horse power is fine, as long as you can get rid of the heat,
some say ported saws with muffler mods run cooler,
and attribute this to the increased flow throuth the cylinder and out.
HP and RPM alone are no good, there is no rotating mass to help keep up
that speed, thus we depend on Torque to pull through the cut.

 

[Marshy]

You guys are so out of touch. The latest and greatest is to make a cocktail of oills. Pick your top 4 or 6 and blend them... some conventional, some semi synthetic and some full synthetic. That way you get the best of EVERYTHING.

 

[RI Chevy]

LOL. Already been doing that before it was even popular. [emoji106]

I always add a little Klotz to every batch because I like the smell. Lol

 

[Keith Gandy]

Ive even been drinkin alil Klotz KL200 everyday so hopefully when I fart it smells like Techniplate!!!

 

[RI Chevy]

You may need a bit more compression to fire it off Keith. [emoji23]

 

[Keith Gandy]

You may need a bit more compression to fire it off Keith. [emoji23]

Turnip Greens and Cabbage are all natural and raises compression ratio!

 

[RI Chevy]

Oh yeah. You may need a muffler mod. LOL. [emoji23]