What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

What makes red armor unique is the fact that it appears to use a pretty light weight estor with PIB as the primary anti scuff additive. Haven't seen this before.

Whats your opinion of the RA makeup Ben?

 

[Keith Gandy]

It does seem to be a different blend than most. It seems to work well and doesn't leave as big of a mess as some.

It stays extremely clean I guess from the Napatha?

 

[bwalker]

Whats your opinion of the RA makeup Ben?

I do not have one, other than its different than other oils I have seen.

Nothing wrong with Powerblend, either. Much better than Stihl orange bottle crap.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Ben whats the difference between the 2 PIBs in RA and Powerblend?

 

[bwalker]

It stays extremely clean I guess from the Napatha?

No, the naphtha is just the dilluent. It's not a detergent of any sort.

 

[Keith Gandy]

No, the naphtha is just the dilluent. It's not a detergent of any sort.

What components in RA causes it to stay clean?

 

[bwalker]

Ben whats the difference between the 2 PIBs in RA and Powerblend?

Can't say for certain.
I wouldnt get to excited about what you see on MSDS sheets. Nor, too excited about the use of ester base oils. I have seen some really crappy results frome ester based oils in chainsaws and other applications for that matter.
Use the stuff heavily for several years and get back to us.

 

[bwalker]

What components in RA causes it to stay clean?

How do you know it stays clean given you have been running it a short while?
If it does indeed run clean the components most responsible are the base oils. PIB, mineral and Ester.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Can't say for certain.
I wouldnt get to excited about what you see on MSDS sheets. Nor, too excited about the use of ester base oils. I have seen some really crappy results frome ester based oils in chainsaws and other applications for that matter.
Use the stuff heavily for several years and get back to us.

We will do that for sure. As from what Im seeing so far and the price its a very good all around OPE oil

 

[jake wells]

i don't see any problems with powerblend after 6 gallons run through the saws for wood cutting.
it has a more pleasing exhaust smell compared to supertech.

 

[Keith Gandy]

How do you know it stays clean given you have been running it a short while?
If it does indeed run clean the components most responsible are the base oils. PIB and Ester.

Compared to other oils that build carbon within a few tanks this oil hasnt over many tanks in anything that Ive ran it in. On their site its one of the things they toot their horn over in that it will actually clean depoists left behind with other oils in given time

 

[Keith Gandy]

R the calcium based carbonates responsible for cleaning also Ben?

 

[Cut4fun]

The Klotz that I bought was under $50 for the gallon shipped.

Mine came out to $44 a gal. I would buy 10qts at a time case. It has went up $2 a qt since shipped.

But still $53 shipped for a gal. http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/302110610549?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true

Thats just the first place I seen. Prob could be found cheaper.

 

[RI Chevy]

Yup. It keeps going up for some reason.

 

[Cut4fun]

@Keith Gandy kl200 does has rust inhibitors, but NOT to be used as storage oil.

Also I tested a batch for 13 months that I kept to the side. No stabilizer used and never any separation. This was with ethanol gas and I wanted to see if I could get it to separate even leaving small batch open at times. Never did.

Tech specs for KL-200

Rust Prevention: Contain rust inhibitors. Not recommended as a
storage lubricant.

 

[Keith Gandy]

@Keith Gandy kl200 does has rust inhibitors, but NOT to be used as storage oil.

Also I tested a batch for 13 months that I kept to the side. No stabilizer used and never any separation. This was with ethanol gas and I wanted to see if I could get it to separate even leaving small batch open at times. Never did.

Tech specs for KL-200

Rust Prevention: Contain rust inhibitors. Not recommended as a
storage lubricant.

Ok I was turnaround there. Sounds good and thanks

 

[Keith Gandy]

@Keith Gandy kl200 does has rust inhibitors, but NOT to be used as storage oil.

Also I tested a batch for 13 months that I kept to the side. No stabilizer used and never any separation. This was with ethanol gas and I wanted to see if I could get it to separate even leaving small batch open at times. Never did.

Tech specs for KL-200

Rust Prevention: Contain rust inhibitors. Not recommended as a
storage lubricant.

Wonder why not a storage oil?

 

[Keith Gandy]

Lord knows I have enough KL200 and RA to last along time

 

[Keith Gandy]

I like 40to1 with both thoso oils also. Seems to work well at that ratio in ported saws, stock saws, electronic saws, and yard equipment

 

[RI Chevy]

Maybe just to be on the safe side? They state not to use at temps below 30 degrees. Maybe just for legal reasons, as motorcycles and dirtbikes are far more expensive than our little chainsaws. Lol