What oil is best? and what ratio?

stihl saws · Aug 16, 2016

CR500 said:
It does smell in the bottle but running I can not smell anything bad

Right, you don't notice it while running.

smokey7 · Aug 17, 2016

Soooooo where are we at as far as oil goes? Any stand outs that make the top 5 easily? Is 32-40:2 still acceptable with a good synthetic? I still think i wanna look up some premium dino oil fir that oldtime smell i grew up on. I can still smell that smell im my memory of the snomobiles first start up in the garage....... god i miss those years of my life.

stihl saws · Aug 17, 2016

smokey7 said:
Soooooo where are we at as far as oil goes? Any stand outs that make the top 5 easily? Is 32-40:2 still acceptable with a good synthetic? I still think i wanna look up some premium dino oil fir that oldtime smell i grew up on. I can still smell that smell im my memory of the snomobiles first start up in the garage....... god i miss those years of my life.

I think most of us would agree, it's all about the application. Then we'll fight it out over the brands and types.

KenJax Tree · Aug 17, 2016

40:1 Saber. The Red Armor is gone and it works but i can get Saber cheaper.

No fighting from me, im set[emoji106]

Keith Gandy · Aug 17, 2016

Redbull661 said:
Hey guys, I was thinking about these take downs im doing. Thinking the results would be different depending on the load on the saw right?

In other words

ported saw running 32:1 xyz oil with a 41" .404
vs
stock saw running 32:1 xyz oil with 24" 3/8

things would probably be dryer etc etc on the ported saw.

So thinking I should just use a ported saw and load it up the same way every time (long bar .404 full comp) and run every oil at 32:1 and then do my take downs. (also I have a ton of wood in the same pile I could buck up...so the wood and cutting would be the same as well)

thoughts?

Probably as consistent as u will be able to control?

odin · Aug 17, 2016

Redbull661 said:
Hey guys, I was thinking about these take downs im doing. Thinking the results would be different depending on the load on the saw right?

In other words

ported saw running 32:1 xyz oil with a 41" .404
vs
stock saw running 32:1 xyz oil with 24" 3/8

things would probably be dryer etc etc on the ported saw.

So thinking I should just use a ported saw and load it up the same way every time (long bar .404 full comp) and run every oil at 32:1 and then do my take downs. (also I have a ton of wood in the same pile I could buck up...so the wood and cutting would be the same as well)

thoughts?

This is EXACTLY what I was thinking when I asked you about your B&C setup a day or so ago. I would think running a short bar with an "easy" load is gonna burn a lot different than the long bar buried dogs-deep.

But what the hell do I know, I'm just the helper...

odin said:
... Just out of curiosity, Redbull, what B&C setup do you test with?...

CoreyB · Aug 17, 2016

I agree load and application would be as much of a contributing factor as any thing else. Like my experience with red armor almost no smell and very clean in the saws at 42.5 :1 but the weed eater has some damp on the exhaust and the smell is definitely noticeable.
The Dolmar synthetic seems more even across application and load.

Nitehawk55 · Aug 17, 2016

I would run the oil at 40:1

bwalker · Aug 17, 2016

Redbull661 said:
Hey guys, I was thinking about these take downs im doing. Thinking the results would be different depending on the load on the saw right?

In other words

ported saw running 32:1 xyz oil with a 41" .404
vs
stock saw running 32:1 xyz oil with 24" 3/8

things would probably be dryer etc etc on the ported saw.

So thinking I should just use a ported saw and load it up the same way every time (long bar .404 full comp) and run every oil at 32:1 and then do my take downs. (also I have a ton of wood in the same pile I could buck up...so the wood and cutting would be the same as well)

thoughts?

Load has a huge influence.

bwalker · Aug 18, 2016

Some Jerry Hall quotes that may be of interest. Jerry is one smart dude and in the two stroke world is on par with guys like Dr. Gordon Blair.
http://z15.invisionfree.com/LT250_LT500HQ/ar/t4146.htm

Terry Syd · Aug 18, 2016

"The oil that has the most influence of engine longevity is the air filter oil, then comes the oil ratio and then the brand of two stroke oil."

Keith Gandy · Aug 18, 2016

Terry Syd said:
"The oil that has the most influence of engine longevity is the air filter oil, then comes the oil ratio and then the brand of two stroke oil."

I use mesh instead of flocked! Lol! No oiling that unless it gets alil spitback!!

Roost426 · Aug 18, 2016

I was seeing it mentioned that the Super Tech Fully Synthetic in the silver bottle was made by citgo. The bottles of it I have been using up here in washington have a WPP on the bottom which is Warren Petroleum. I would believe it is most likely this or very close to it.

http://www.mag1.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=4f877bb4-a1e6-4e3c-8ccd-a31d1fad59f5

This oil has been working just fine for me and the price is great.

junkman · Aug 18, 2016

Roost426 said:
I was seeing it mentioned that the Super Tech Fully Synthetic in the silver bottle was made by citgo. The bottles of it I have been using up here in washington have a WPP on the bottom which is Warren Petroleum. I would believe it is most likely this or very close to it.

http://www.mag1.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=4f877bb4-a1e6-4e3c-8ccd-a31d1fad59f5

This oil has been working just fine for me and the price is great.

Welcome to the site

Roost426 · Aug 18, 2016

junkman said:
Welcome to the site

Thanks! I am always lurking on here just don't post to much.. I don't have CAD nearly as bad as you all yet, or at least my wallet won't let me! Just got a 7900 and a little echo cs310 for small stuff. Enjoy reading the threads on here.

bwalker · Aug 18, 2016

Keith Gandy said:
I use mesh instead of flocked! Lol! No oiling that unless it gets alil spitback!!

Using a mesh filter is stupid IMO.

KenJax Tree · Aug 18, 2016

bwalker said:
Using a mesh filter is stupid IMO.

I use the flocked filters too. My JRed 2260 came with black mesh #80 filter

paragonbuilder · Aug 18, 2016

bwalker said:
Using a mesh filter is stupid IMO.

Damn Ben! Why does someone have to be stupid if they don't reason as you do? It must suck going through life thinking everyone else is stupid...

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bwalker · Aug 18, 2016

paragonbuilder said:
Damn Ben! Why does someone have to be stupid if they don't reason as you do? It must suck going through life thinking everyone else is stupid...

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I didn't say anyone was stupid. I said running a mesh filter is stupid. IMO it is. Essentially your trading of filtration for a miniscule increase in performance. With most saws you will never know the differance performance wise

paragonbuilder · Aug 18, 2016

bwalker said:
I didn't say anyone was stupid. I said running a mesh filter is stupid. IMO it is. Essentially your trading of filtration for a miniscule increase in performance. With most saws you will never know the differance performance wise

You quoted Keith saying he uses mesh filters, and then said using mesh filters was stupid. It's not much of a stretch...
Instead of sharing that you feel "others choices" are stupid, why not share your experience as to why you feel this way. At least then we can learn something!
Your a smart man with valuable insight, but the way you treat others is exactly why some have left this site...

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