What oil is best? and what ratio?

[bwalker]

So this is an oily mess? I thought if it wasn't burning there was supposed to be wash patterns and clean areas. Not a flat even layer like in the photo.
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I can't see the crown adequately to say. Either the oil takes alot more heat to burn than your giving it or your tuned really rich based on how wet the exhaust port is.

 

[jake wells]

I can't see the crown adequately to say. Either the oil takes alot more heat to burn than your giving it or your tuned really rich based on how wet the exhaust port is.

flash point on the oil is 163 *F so im guessing it is tuned rich.

 

[bwalker]

flash point on the oil is 163 *F so im guessing it is tuned rich.

Wpuld be my guess too.
Flash point really isn't a indicator of how an oil combusts. Really it's just telling you at which temp the diluent boils off and the lower the better in this regard.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Well how long will it take to run 32 gal of gas?

5 gal per day is alot? It would take me several years to burn 32 gal but Ill say between a pole saw, brushcutter, weedeater, hedger, br600 blower, and 5 saws I use a good bit of mix and not to mention what I pour in customers equipment I work on. A ported 390xp with 404 chain noodling up every bigger tree I cut down goes through a gallon pretty quick! I hear people say it takes awhile for them to burn a gallon and I dont understand. If I cut down a 25" or bigger tree and buck it with a ported 064, limb it with my ported 562xp, and noodle it with my ported 390xp, a gallon doesnt last long

 

[Keith Gandy]

The primary reason i like red armor is because of the dye. I have ran just whatever the gas station on the way to the woods had on hand. No failures. Is red armor more expensive?.... Sure it is. Saw related expenses are minimal on our books. I would rather run what a saw builder prefers. At roughly 5 gallons per day through a felling saw, i feel that it must be decent oil. Recently worked a deal with a local stihl dealer on b&c oil, $10 a gallon for platinum. More expensive than super tech? Yeah it is, but chains don't stretch as fast and bars take longer to develop bur's... It's all in the application. Any of you polisher's want to loan me a 90cc saw for a week?.....

A bottle of red Cat dye cost 50$ and 1 drop will color a gallon of mix the color of the red armor and would last even u along time. My question is why does red armor cost 79 to 96$ a gallon when u can buy oils like Klotz, maxima, yamalube , amsoil, etc for 1/2 that price or less and thoso oils r just as good as the echo or maybe better?

 

[CR888]

Red Armour has pretty decent ingredients, I am not too surprised its sold at the retail price it is. It certainly could have been produced at a quarter of its cost but not with the quantity of quality stuff. You don't always pay for what you get with oils but its contents of PIB and esters do cost money. I don't just care about what's in an oil....more importantly what's not.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Red Armour has pretty decent ingredients, I am not too surprised its sold at the retail price it is. It certainly could have been produced at a quarter of its cost but not with the quantity of quality stuff. You don't always pay for what you get with oils but its contents of PIB and esters do cost money. I don't just care about what's in an oil....more importantly what's not.

Any of the oils I mention have any of thoso ingredients?

 

[Wilhelm]

5 gal per day is alot? It would take me several years to burn 32 gal but Ill say between a pole saw, brushcutter, weedeater, hedger, br600 blower, and 5 saws I use a good bit of mix and not to mention what I pour in customers equipment I work on. A ported 390xp with 404 chain noodling up every bigger tree I cut down goes through a gallon pretty quick! I hear people say it takes awhile for them to burn a gallon and I dont understand. If I cut down a 25" or bigger tree and buck it with a ported 064, limb it with my ported 562xp, and noodle it with my ported 390xp, a gallon doesnt last long

This year I did some bucking exclusively using my PS-7900, making cut after cut while others where clearing the log pile from rounds - I got no more than 20 minutes of constant work per tank. I used a *s-wordty TriLink loop and had to use the saws spikes to make the chain bite, I pushed the saw hard!
A PS-7900's tank holds 0.75Liters of fuel.

750 Milliliters into Gallons (US)
Result:
0.19812903926861

Thus, 5 tanks of fuel add up to 1 Gallon US

My bigger (1.5kW) weed eater drinks a 1Liter tank of fuel within 30 minutes!

That been said, on the rather rare occasion I manage to use up a Gallon of fuel per cutting/mowing session.

 

[KenJax Tree]

Any of the oils I mention have any of thoso ingredients?

Maxima has ester.

 

[mdavlee]

The primary reason i like red armor is because of the dye. I have ran just whatever the gas station on the way to the woods had on hand. No failures. Is red armor more expensive?.... Sure it is. Saw related expenses are minimal on our books. I would rather run what a saw builder prefers. At roughly 5 gallons per day through a felling saw, i feel that it must be decent oil. Recently worked a deal with a local stihl dealer on b&c oil, $10 a gallon for platinum. More expensive than super tech? Yeah it is, but chains don't stretch as fast and bars take longer to develop bur's... It's all in the application. Any of you polisher's want to loan me a 90cc saw for a week?.....

You want to run one with a 2 piece head for a week if I can get it done? I want to see if it will hold up in a real world application. I won't have time to set up and mill for a day when I get it done til I find more suitable logs.

 

[CoreyB]

I can't see the crown adequately to say. Either the oil takes alot more heat to burn than your giving it or your tuned really rich based on how wet the exhaust port is.

Keep in mind the exhaust is kind of funny on the 6100. The muffler has a tube that runs inside the head and inside that tube is bone dry. And what you see as the exhaust port is where that tube slides in and has no exhaust so the oily build up there confuses me a bit other then sense it has no where to go (the exhaust) it settles and builds. I don't know for sure.
But the inside of the exhaust is dry.

 

[huskihl]

The exhaust port on all my ported saws is oily and wipes off to a shiny surface. The piston crowns and mufflers are black and brown similar to Ben's piston above.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Think Ill order a quart of this red armor and try it. Sounds like a good ester based OPE oil

 

[KenJax Tree]

Think Ill order a quart of this red armor and try it. Sounds like a good ester based OPE oilView attachment 29500

It better be good oil.

According to this Saber has ester too

 

[jake wells]

Think Ill order a quart of this red armor and try it. Sounds like a good ester based OPE oilView attachment 29500

your kidding right?

 

[jake wells]

It better be good oil.

According to this Saber has ester too

i thought use used some red armor liquid gold.

 

[jake wells]

im about to remove my redmax muffler and inspect the exhaust port after 10 gallons of mix.

 

[Keith Gandy]

your kidding right?

Na! 26.99 per 36oz

 

[jake wells]

Na! 26.99 per 36oz

i ran it for 3 years before it got expensive and hard to find.

 

[Keith Gandy]

Wheres Cory? Does this stuff pour like molasses or pours and mixes easy?