Was the Echo CS-7310P a fad or is anyone running them?

[lehman live edge slab]

?? I suppose this is a typo.

Yes it’s a mistake I missed the comma. This also isn’t to bash the 7310 it’s to bring to light why it maybe isnt the huge seller people expected. Between the price climbing up to close to the rest of the 70cc class, having upper 60cc power, weight of close to an 80cc doesn’t make them look real competitive on paper. Majority want the lightest most powerful in the class not the bottom end of
It. The majority is also going to leave it stock and not want to modify or pay someone too for them at the same time voiding the long warranty that was part of the saws cost. I believe theses are some of the reason sales have fell off. On the other side there is a smaller group that thinks all this is worth the cost of a simple design that has the utmost durability vs performance and that’s fine too they also will port them to try and keep up but you can always port the others to get back ahead. In the end of the day if you’re happy with what you bought and are willing to accept it’s not as fast or light as others then that’s all that matters. Also you’ll need to accept having a smaller group of porters that will do one if you choose also and don’t do your own not to say they’re isn’t good ones that will do one just smaller numbers than a husky or stihl.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Finally cleaned up that seasoned birch. This time of year, I'm cleaning up whats left from trees I've milled. Still have 2 30+ inch diameter spruce trees left, to clean up. I milled 4 16 ft saw logs of the 2 trees coupla years ago, and still lots of firewood left.

Anyhow,the splitting axe was just bouncing off the larger pieces, so had to noodle them with the 7310p. I got about 4 sled loads of firewood off this one tree. Also got about a dozen slabs off this one large birch.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

My brother-in-law, who owns and used 372's for years logging, was using a 7310 on Saturday. He commented that he really liked it.

Nice! Yep I'm coming from a jonsered 2172. Very similiar feel and powerband.

Full of fuel/oil, 7310p is about 1 lb difference from a 462. 4 oz difference from a 572. No big deal to me as im usually wearing many lbs of cutting gear and winter gear. Literally the easiest saw I've ever ported.

OK, back to cutting with the 7310p, can't put this saw down!

Less talking minutiae and hypotheticals, more throttle time.......

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Nice! Yep I'm coming from a jonsered 2172. Very similiar feel and powerband.

Full of fuel/oil, 7310p is about 1 lb difference from a 462. 4 oz difference from a 572. No big deal to me as im usually wearing many lbs of cutting gear and winter gear. Literally the easiest saw I've ever ported.

OK, back to cutting with the 7310p, can't put this saw down!

Less talking minutiae and hypotheticals, more throttle time.......

Back to that rock hard birch stuff is unlike anything anywhere in the world way you were talking about it.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

?? I suppose this is a typo.

Just ignore him dude,
He's not contributing anything valuable to this discussion of the 7310p.

 

[bwalker]

Back to that rock hard birch stuff is unlike anything anywhere in the world way you were talking about it.

Birch cuts like butter.

 

[bwalker]

Yes it’s a mistake I missed the comma. This also isn’t to bash the 7310 it’s to bring to light why it maybe isnt the huge seller people expected. Between the price climbing up to close to the rest of the 70cc class, having upper 60cc power, weight of close to an 80cc doesn’t make them look real competitive on paper. Majority want the lightest most powerful in the class not the bottom end of
It. The majority is also going to leave it stock and not want to modify or pay someone too for them at the same time voiding the long warranty that was part of the saws cost. I believe theses are some of the reason sales have fell off. On the other side there is a smaller group that thinks all this is worth the cost of a simple design that has the utmost durability vs performance and that’s fine too they also will port them to try and keep up but you can always port the others to get back ahead. In the end of the day if you’re happy with what you bought and are willing to accept it’s not as fast or light as others then that’s all that matters. Also you’ll need to accept having a smaller group of porters that will do one if you choose also and don’t do your own not to say they’re isn’t good ones that will do one just smaller numbers than a husky or stihl.

Echo doesn't sell many saws because they have poor brand recognition as a chainsaw company. Stihl probably sells more MS291's in a year than echo sells saws,period.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Just ignore him dude,
He's not contributing anything valuable to this discussion of the 7310p.

Actually pointed out why they don’t sell well since this was the actual question at the beginning, when your awesome substantially cheaper, 60 cc class leading power with the weight of an 80cc saw that’s easier to port then any other saw and has the power to cut birch when all done are the reason. If 1-2 lbs is no big deal they may as well quit making the 150-200$ light bars because it’s a waste. I never said birch was hard you did. And in dyno runs the ms400 makes the same power and torque stock for stock as the 7310 so equal saw is 2 lbs lighter.

 

[FergusonTO35]

. I’d also wait to see what happens with Toyota because you may not want your echos associated with the latest tundra’s reliability and build quality. Definitely no better than anyone else’s maybe worse.

I was an auto tech for my first career, first half spent working on mostly domestic at independent shops, second half for two Toyota dealers. Thing is, when Toyota releases a lemon or has a recall it's big news because it happens so rarely. Whereas, we've just come to accept a typical range from mediocre to downright awful from the USA automakers. When they actually produce something good we take notice!

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I was an auto tech for my first career, first half spent working on mostly domestic at independent shops, second half for two Toyota dealers. Thing is, when Toyota releases a lemon or has a recall it's big news because it happens so rarely. Whereas, we've just come to accept a typical range from mediocre to downright awful from the USA automakers. When they actually produce something good we take notice!

My only point to this statement is that they all are in the same boat as of late is all, Toyota isn’t what it was and neither is Honda Or nissian who are combining. Lots of new Hondas burning oil as bad as Chevy, tundra’s blowing up at 20-30,000 for the last 4 years, fords using and making oil ect. Ram with the new inline 6 gas with compound turbos built into the head. The epa milage and emissions tech that’s required to be used now finally ended up on a Toyota and they aren’t fairing any better that domestic stuff anymore.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Echo doesn't sell many saws because they have poor brand recognition as a chainsaw company. Stihl probably sells more MS291's in a year than echo sells saws,period.

Every Home Depot across the entire country, has in stock CS 590's and they sell a pile of em. Have you gotten any sales figures on the stihl 291 or echo 590 Timberwolf?

In the 60 cc homeowner class, They're pretty well known and very popular.

Echo has been in this sales relationship with Home Depot since 1994. It's kinda funny, the first home depot "timberwolf" was just a 6700. Most folks wouldn't be aware of this. Very much the same quality as the current: magnesium, split case

My "Timberwolf 1.0" had an old 1995 home depot receipt for $270:

Bunch of cs 590's in this factory footage:

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Actually pointed out why they don’t sell well since this was the actual question at the beginning, when your awesome substantially cheaper, 60 cc class leading power with the weight of an 80cc saw that’s easier to port then any other saw and has the power to cut birch when all done are the reason. If 1-2 lbs is no big deal they may as well quit making the 150-200$ light bars because it’s a waste. I never said birch was hard you did. And in dyno runs the ms400 makes the same power and torque stock for stock as the 7310 so equal saw is 2 lbs lighter.

For a fella that has no interest in an Echo 7310p, and zero experience with almost any Echo saw, you sure do spill alot words over this saw. You honestly sound like a cross between a broken record and debbie downer.

Anyhow, had another great day running the 7310p. Powerful, smooth, perfect balance with the 32" x tough light bar. In this first month, I've burnt through 3 gallons of mixed fuel in the thing and I'm still smiling.

 

[eric4]

Ya don't see many Echo 1201's around! How's she runnin' on the mill? Is it a stock machine?

Great collection of saws

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Ya don't see many Echo 1201's around! How's she runnin' on the mill? Is it a stock machine?

Great collection of saws

Thanks, been milling for 2 years with it. Pav-ported, unlimited rpms and upgraded to roller crank bearing on the pto side and rim sprocket over the factory spur. Running 8 pin .404 and over oils a 42" bar.

Here's Pav cutting with a 1201. He's very weight-conscious , its not heavy enough for him ha!

 

[eric4]

Thanks, been milling for 2 years with it. Pav-ported, unlimited rpms and upgraded to roller crank bearing on the pto side and rim sprocket over the factory spur. Running 8 pin .404 and over oils a 42" bar.

Here's Pav cutting with a 1201. He's very weight-conscious , its not heavy enough for him ha!

Impressive machine! How does someone get a 1201? Is ebay the best bet?

 

[ferris]

We have a member here that can send u all the special saws
@Mastermind can u help me with the name

 

[lehman live edge slab]

For a fella that has no interest in an Echo 7310p, and zero experience with almost any Echo saw, you sure do spill alot words over this saw. You honestly sound like a cross between a broken record and debbie downer.

Anyhow, had another great day running the 7310p. Powerful, smooth, perfect balance with the 32" x tough light bar. In this first month, I've burnt through 3 gallons of mixed fuel in the thing and I'm still smiling.

That’s fine still not saying it’s bad just be realistic is all, your an obvious echo fan and that’s fine to but some of the stuff you say about the birch and how awesome echo is and nothing else is even close to them when the other companies have out sold them 10-1 or more for who knows how long. Definitely is a pick and run what you like ect and feels good. This thread was about if anyone runs one anymore or not and why has turned into your personal echo 7310 ad. I have only brought up points why it’s maybe not so popular is all and all we get out of you is how hard your birch is and this is the easiest saw to modify ect. Was all supposed to be about why people do or don’t buy it that’s all, any saw made now could cut what you’ve been doing last few days in pictures including my ms 400 that’s all. The point is echo has never been a high selling stand out brand ever and this saw has done nothing to change that. The biggest game changer echos had in years is the 2511t the reason is because it’s light, powerful and was cheap. I’m done now that I pointed out what may be holding some of this saws sales back. Far as having interest in this particular model when they first came out I did because of pricing then it died off and I kinda forgot about it. Now I started reading this thread i decided to look into them more and find out why they do or don’t sell well and maybe it’s a saw I should try the way your pumping it up. More I read everywhere I kinda began getting a picture of why it doesn’t sell and most of the reason probably was stock power and weight combined with the new price equal to the others. I’m said my piece and will let you back to your 7310 ad and birch milling. But they definitely built the 7310 well and not to say the other two haven’t had issues from weight reduction and epa regs. The first gen ms 462 should have been taken back snd replaced by the new one. No not all failed but the piston hitting the diverter made them redesign the saw so was a large enough issue all people should have gotten a new one in place of the first generation, husky should have gave everyone a new redesigned 540t to replace the gen ones that ate rings every 3 months. These are pro work saws guys buy to make money on both accounts and should hold up. There’s 2 echos I would buy after researching the 7310 because of this thread and it would be the Timberwolf the next one up that i think is the same design basically just bigger and the 2511. I’m sure the Timberwolf is probably one of the best selling echos and Home Depot sells a ton.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Every Home Depot across the entire country, has in stock CS 590's and they sell a pile of em. Have you gotten any sales figures on the stihl 291 or echo 590 Timberwolf?

In the 60 cc homeowner class, They're pretty well known and very popular.

Echo has been in this sales relationship with Home Depot since 1994. It's kinda funny, the first home depot "timberwolf" was just a 6700. Most folks wouldn't be aware of this. Very much the same quality as the current: magnesium, split case

My "Timberwolf 1.0" had an old 1995 home depot receipt for $270:

Bunch of cs 590's in this factory footage:

I’m sure the 290/291 and Timberwolf are very close in sales numbers and the majority of echos saw money is made on the Timberwolf and 2511t. I actually tell everyone where my wife works that if the customer is looking at saws in the 271/291 class to try and talk them into a ms 261 and why it’s better and not just more money. Most walk out with the 261 after they learn the differences.

 

[Mastermind]

We have a member here that can send u all the special saws
@Mastermind can u help me with the name

@NightRogue

 

[mainer_in_ak]

I’m said my piece and will let you back to your 7310 ad and birch milling

good grief dude, I sure hope so!

You're still just going on and on and on, like a broken record.

It's actually kinda weird. Go run some saws dude.