Was the Echo CS-7310P a fad or is anyone running them?

[FergusonTO35]

My only point to this statement is that they all are in the same boat as of late is all, Toyota isn’t what it was and neither is Honda Or nissian who are combining. Lots of new Hondas burning oil as bad as Chevy, tundra’s blowing up at 20-30,000 for the last 4 years, fords using and making oil ect. Ram with the new inline 6 gas with compound turbos built into the head. The epa milage and emissions tech that’s required to be used now finally ended up on a Toyota and they aren’t fairing any better that domestic stuff anymore.

I believe every word that you said. Still, I trust Toyota and Honda to overcome these problems better than the domestics. In any event, I don't buy new vehicles. By the time a vehicle gets to me, it has alot of miles on it and I know I'm going to be fixing things on it anyway. One advantage of staying with older vehicles is that there is a knowledge base and aftermarket support for them. Including non-OEM workarounds which can be a lifesaver. Case in point, the Honda Odyssey we used to have had the typical malfunctioning cylinder bank shutdown. The price for me to fix it was several hundred dollars to restore something that never should have been done in the first place. I did some interweb research and found that you could deactivate it by simply unplugging one wire, problem solved permanently!

 

[bwalker]

Every Home Depot across the entire country, has in stock CS 590's and they sell a pile of em. Have you gotten any sales figures on the stihl 291 or echo 590 Timberwolf?

In the 60 cc homeowner class, They're pretty well known and very popular.

Echo has been in this sales relationship with Home Depot since 1994. It's kinda funny, the first home depot "timberwolf" was just a 6700. Most folks wouldn't be aware of this. Very much the same quality as the current: magnesium, split case

My "Timberwolf 1.0" had an old 1995 home depot receipt for $270:

Bunch of cs 590's in this factory footage:

I've been in a few home depots and have never seen an Echo chainsaw in them. I also don't know anyone who ones one.

 

[bwalker]

I believe every word that you said. Still, I trust Toyota and Honda to overcome these problems better than the domestics. In any event, I don't buy new vehicles. By the time a vehicle gets to me, it has alot of miles on it and I know I'm going to be fixing things on it anyway. One advantage of staying with older vehicles is that there is a knowledge base and aftermarket support for them. Including non-OEM workarounds which can be a lifesaver. Case in point, the Honda Odyssey we used to have had the typical malfunctioning cylinder bank shutdown. The price for me to fix it was several hundred dollars to restore something that never should have been done in the first place. I did some interweb research and found that you could deactivate it by simply unplugging one wire, problem solved permanently!

The BIG three have chronic problems they never fix so the consumer is left holding the bag post warranty. They just produce bad vehicles relative to Toyota and Honda.

 

[bwalker]

Thanks, been milling for 2 years with it. Pav-ported, unlimited rpms and upgraded to roller crank bearing on the pto side and rim sprocket over the factory spur. Running 8 pin .404 and over oils a 42" bar.

Here's Pav cutting with a 1201. He's very weight-conscious , its not heavy enough for him ha!

What wrong with the factory crank bearing?

 

[mainer_in_ak]

What wrong with the factory crank bearing?

Nothing, I think pav just likes the longevity of the barrel roller-type bearing over a the ball bearing. But then he's burying 42" bars in rain forest hardwood. Overkill for what I milll up here.

Had a buddy in Sheridan, Wyoming just grab a 590 timberwolf from his local home depot. Might be able to do a store transfer to your local home depot.

 

[bwalker]

Nothing, I think pav just likes the longevity of the barrel roller-type bearing over a the ball bearing. But then he's burying 42" bars in rain forest hardwood. Overkill for what I milll up here.

Had a buddy in Sheridan, Wyoming just grab a 590 timberwolf from his local home depot. Might be able to do a store transfer to your local home depot.

A roller on the PTO side does have some merit for milling and long bars.
Sheridan is pretty close. I'll check them out in a few weeks when I'll be passing through.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

The BIG three have chronic problems they never fix so the consumer is left holding the bag post warranty. They just produce bad vehicles relative to Toyota and Honda.

Of the dozen toyota 4wd's ive owned, my favorite was my T-100. Same exact bed dimensions as a 1st gen tundra and got great fuel economy. The quality of the darn thing was outstanding. 3.4l v6, 5 speed manual.

In the late 90's, it was the 1/2 ton truck that nobody was interested in. As if a punchy little v6 in 1/2 ton was a sin or something? My, have the times changed!

Scroungd lots of firewood with it, moved supplies non-stop for my business, and moved canoes moose/caribou all over the state. Would start unassisted in 40 below zero weather and never begged me for a single part.

 

[bwalker]

Of the dozen toyota 4wd's ive owned, my favorite was my T-100. Same exact bed dimensions as a 1st gen tundra and got great fuel economy. The quality of the darn thing was outstanding. 3.4l v6, 5 speed manual.

In the late 90's, it was the 1/2 ton truck that nobody was interested in. As if a punchy little v6 in 1/2 ton was a sin or something? My, have the times changed!

Scroungd lots of firewood with it, moved supplies non-stop for my business, and moved canoes moose/caribou all over the state. Would start unassisted in 40 below zero weather and never begged me for a single part.

I'm actually on the lookout for a T100 fir a hunting rig right now.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Of the dozen toyota 4wd's ive owned, my favorite was my T-100. Same exact bed dimensions as a 1st gen tundra and got great fuel economy. The quality of the darn thing was outstanding. 3.4l v6, 5 speed manual.

In the late 90's, it was the 1/2 ton truck that nobody was interested in. As if a punchy little v6 in 1/2 ton was a sin or something? My, have the times changed!

Scroungd lots of firewood with it, moved supplies non-stop for my business, and moved canoes moose/caribou all over the state. Would start unassisted in 40 below zero weather and never begged me for a single part.

They were good trucks I know many that had them. Also my best friend from high school had the 3.4 in a Tacoma was great only had to put a starter in it. I did the starter and it sucked bad took 4 hours first time and 3 1/2 a week later when the Napa starter failed.

 

[Lions fan]

Of the dozen toyota 4wd's ive owned, my favorite was my T-100. Same exact bed dimensions as a 1st gen tundra and got great fuel economy. The quality of the darn thing was outstanding. 3.4l v6, 5 speed manual.

In the late 90's, it was the 1/2 ton truck that nobody was interested in. As if a punchy little v6 in 1/2 ton was a sin or something? My, have the times changed!

Scroungd lots of firewood with it, moved supplies non-stop for my business, and moved canoes moose/caribou all over the state. Would start unassisted in 40 below zero weather and never begged me for a single part.

They were good trucks I know many that had them. Also my best friend from high school had the 3.4 in a Tacoma was great only had to put a starter in it. I did the starter and it sucked bad took 4 hours first time and 3 1/2 a week later when the Napa starter failed.

My wife's old 4-Runner had a 3.4L V-6. Reliable, but it didn't have enough power to get out of it's own way. She has one with a 4.0L now and it's exactly the same way.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

My wife's old 4-Runner had a 3.4L V-6. Reliable, but it didn't have enough power to get out of it's own way. She has one with a 4.0L now and it's exactly the same way.

Step er up .7 of a liter and another 2 cylinders:

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Step er up .7 of a liter and another 2 cylinders:

Same guy that had the taco bought a 4.7 tundra after that was also good but did need a timing belt and radiator at 150,000. Got rid of it at around 300,000 because of frame rot

 

[RCBS]

My wife's old 4-Runner had a 3.4L V-6. Reliable, but it didn't have enough power to get out of it's own way. She has one with a 4.0L now and it's exactly the same way.

It's crazy how 'slow' the 4 liter runners are compared to the tacomas. I had an 06 that would gap 5.4 F150s, stock. Miss that truck.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

It's crazy how 'slow' the 4 liter runners are compared to the tacomas. I had an 06 that would gap 5.4 F150s, stock. Miss that truck.

The 5.4 was so so owned couple 2 valve and a 3v. My 2.7 eco on the other hand is pretty quick and gets 25 mpg at 70