Was the Echo CS-7310P a fad or is anyone running them?

[FergusonTO35]

Just passed Elkins Fork, Kentucky. 8 dog team, ms 660 in the alaskan mill, bunch of pike, solo auger, 10x20cabin tent, cylinder stove, 400 lbs of kibble, 50 lbs beef fat. 37 below, coors froze solid.

What I meant was, there are places here where you can live a real wilderness life if that's your thing. I wasn't implying that Kentucky is the same thing in every way, sorry if I misspoke.

 

[FergusonTO35]

Look at the abuse the diesel pickup engines are dishing out, as the guys line up for em.

Funny how the guys rolling coal with five gallon bucket size pipes on their diesel pickups are almost never pulling anything with them, at least around here.

 

[EFSM]

Funny how the guys rolling coal with five gallon bucket size pipes on their diesel pickups are almost never pulling anything with them, at least around here.

And they're jacked up so high that they have to nearly stop to turn.

 

[Duke Thieroff]

Funny how the guys rolling coal with five gallon bucket size pipes on their diesel pickups are almost never pulling anything with them, at least around here.

Cool guy pageant

 

[Woodpecker]

What I meant was, there are places here where you can live a real wilderness life if that's your thing. I wasn't implying that Kentucky is the same thing in every way, sorry if I misspoke.

You didn’t misspeak Ben’s just doing his best to continue wearing his welcome thin.

 

[bwalker]

You didn’t misspeak Ben’s just doing his best to continue wearing his welcome thin.

Oh brother.
Inwas justbsaying there is no place in Kentucky that's like Alaska and there isn't.

 

[Woodpecker]

Oh brother.
Inwas justbsaying there is no place in Kentucky that's like Alaska and there isn't.

No you’re pulling the same argumentative shít that got you banned here the first time. Care to argue more with me about it?

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Was reading this thread:

https://opeforum.com/attachments/img_1559-jpeg.448152/

And decided to look over the 7310p, since it's very "husqvarna" in design. Kinda cool, the spring AV mount location is a bolt-on deal (part 22), and sets in a beefy interlock, rather than a long/thin tab that could crack.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Was reading this thread:

https://opeforum.com/attachments/img_1559-jpeg.448152/

And decided to look over the 7310p, since it's very "husqvarna" in design. Kinda cool, the spring AV mount location is a bolt-on deal (part 22), and sets in a beefy interlock, rather than a long/thin tab that could crack.

Not one person is saying an echo is junk just heavier and less powerful then equals from husky and Stihl. Yes light weight mounts and such are the byproduct of making a saw light imagine that. The overall market is demanding more power and light weight and of course cheap as they can get. The echo 2511 was successful because it was all 3 at one time now it’s 2 of the three because its not super cheap anymore but has a few downsides of some light parts that break under heavy use. If the 7310 weighed the same as the rest with equal power for 2-300$ less it would sell better.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Are those dogs Malamutes, Alaskan Huskies, Siberian Huskies, or "mixed Huskies"?

They're malamutes. Got about 14 years, owning malamutes. They all howl if you fire up a chainsaw. They know it means trail-time

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Cool guy pageant

Oh, ok. When I see smoke stacks and balloon tires, I always thought that to douche- up a work truck to that extent, It was symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome

 

[FergusonTO35]

Oh, ok. When I see smoke stacks and balloon tires, I always thought that to douche- up a work truck to that extent, It was symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome

Well, there's that too!

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Round-filed the c83 chain and took 3 strokes off the rakers. Cut up a seasoned Alaska birch. In a large knotted section, the saw was settling into 11,300-11,500 rpm in the cut.
Very powerful saw and enjoyable to run.

 

[FergusonTO35]

I don't see any fur on those logs...

 

[EFSM]

My brother-in-law, who owns and used 372's for years logging, was using a 7310 on Saturday. He commented that he really liked it.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Round-filed the c83 chain and took 3 strokes off the rakers. Cut up a seasoned Alaska birch. In a large knotted section, the saw was settling into 11,300-11,500 rpm in the cut.
Very powerful saw and enjoyable to run.

I know I asked once earlier about the difference between the birch there and our mn birch yes they are two different species yours is closer to Asian birch than our paper birch but they are nearly identical in all ways so your frozen birch is our frozen birch as far as a saw gos. This just gives everyone an idea of cut performance of the 7310 and what your holding for rpm in cut. Cut performance in birch here and there will be identical basically with minor differences in hardness of tree due to location ect. Alaskan birch is 830-850 janka and our paper birch is 880-910 janka on all the different places I looked. Only did this because before when I asked you led on that it wasn’t comparable between the two and keep hinting how hard your wood is to cut. This is to clarify that all 70 class saws probably will perform as well as your 7310. They’re smooth, have torque are slightly cheaper now and after some port work they may now outperform the other two brands stock. You dislike light saws with plastic bearings and prefer the old school technology in an echo vs Stihl or husky with autotune, plastic bearings and light weight parts that break. It’s all preference and I’m glad you love the 7310 I’m sure I’d like it fine but I prefer the lighter weight and same or more power of the husky/Stihl and actually like the autotune/mtronic vs a the regular carb. Not that I can’t tune a saw just would rather not have to change the tune day to day to maintain performance. All 3 are good saws pick what you like and feels best with best dealer support. Stihl and husky have partly gone the way they have because the main population just wants a saw that is light and runs the best it can all the time till it doesn’t then it gets brought in to be fixed or replaced.
We’re a small group of the saw buyers and probably getting smaller, our group being the fix our own, modify and pick apart the little things the factories build well and what we think needs improvement.

 

[EchoShindaiwaMakitaDolmar]

I love that my Echo pro saws start easily every time, run great and are as reliable as a Toyota, have enough weight to be very durable and not have parts loosen/fall off, nor cases crack, and in the case of the Echo 620p and 7310p, are within 1- 1.5 lbs of their more expensive competitors.

Life is good.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I love that my Echo pro saws start easily every time, run great and are as reliable as a Toyota, have enough weight to be very durable and not have parts loosen/fall off, nor cases crack, and in the case of the Echo 620p and 7310p, are within 1- 1.5 lbs of their more expensive competitors.

Life is good.

Reliable yes, built well yes, personally I’ve never cracked a saw case have you? Yes I know it happens ect but under what conditions? I’ve never busted a mount either but I don’t reef on stuff if the saws in the box of the truck it’s in a case and held in the corner by a rope to the tie down. Nobody should expect the manufacturer to design a saw to where you can throw it in the truck drive like an ass while it slams into other saws and be ok. I realize some 462’s were breaking when they get pulled hard into a log so maybe they need a bit more reinforcement there but majority of people want power and light weight. The 7310 is a little cheaper than a 462 or 572 but not that much and it’s also more than some competitor saws that make the same power stock for stock. The Ms 400c isn’t known to break cases has been very reliable overall a fair bit lighter than the 7310 and at 1000$, cheaper also. All depends if the cheaper is by displacement or power for the 7310. Like I said the 7310 is a good saw but behind the times for being their latest and greatest. I’d also wait to see what happens with Toyota because you may not want your echos associated with the latest tundra’s reliability and build quality. Definitely no better than anyone else’s maybe worse.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

I love that my Echo pro saws start easily every time, run great and are as reliable as a Toyota, have enough weight to be very durable and not have parts loosen/fall off, nor cases crack, and in the case of the Echo 620p and 7310p, are within 1- 1.5 lbs of their more expensive competitors.

Life is good.

I'm at a point where I know every nut and bolt of every 60-116 cc Echo saw. I know how they run, I know what fails, I know what needs changed.

The 620p though durable,they do have a few things that rattle loose, once you start really cranking up the rpm's:

1. The chain brake toggle has to be lubricated in the cold. If it freezes in place, it breaks the plastic tab on the brake handle. Echo redesigned the brake handle with extra reinforcement in this area. They sent me one free of charge

2. The thin sheet metal deflector eventually cracks. Had to replace mine with a gear head deflector. Also used loctite on the screws, as I think this is where the issue starts: deflector screws loosening up.

3. Once the carb is modified with the walbro 86-578-1 fuel nozzle and you start hitting 14k rpms on such a long-stroke saw, the clutch will spin loose free-reving to tune the saw. Loctite fixes it.

I've cut continuously for 3 years, with my 620pw with 20", 24" and 28" bars. I've settled on a 24" versacut bars on both my 590 and my 620. These are the saws I use most and I have no qualms with the weight.

The cut speed and torque of these modified 620 and 590's, I actually quit 50 cc and 40 cc saws. Gave them all away as gifts to friends n family.

From gnarly birch burls to saw logs, 620pw has no problem pulling a 28" and full house chain. Bar oiler kept up just fine.

 

[EFSM]

1000$ cheaper also.

?? I suppose this is a typo.