Gotcha. I can tell ya that there are even days in the woods when I misjudged trees one after another. I actually walked out of the woods about 2 weeks ago and came home after about an hour of trees all going wrong. Some days cutting trees just mess with your head. I came back the next day and had a really good day - everything cut well and laid out how I wanted.
I could see that logging lots of trees a day. I have a hard time imagining losing three in a row over backwards cuz you refuse to use wedges…
I ain’t picking all that crap up! It’s already up in the air, why would I drop it on the ground and then pick it up? 
Also, those limby trees you got are a lot like what I get, hard to judge. Straight pines like Woodslasher has? Eh…
When they are in the woods, a lot of the time the crown isn’t very big, since they are competing for sunlight along with the rest of the neighboring trees.
These were all semi-rotten firs with decent opposing leans, I won't say I would have gotten them over where I wanted but up till then I was doing okay. It was a matter of him essentially cutting all the holding wood without giving the tree a reason to go opposite to it's lean. Unsurprisingly, the trees chose to fall along their lean instead of 180 degrees to it. I did not like cutting those trees as they were to the point of losing their structural integrity. If it had been near structures he would've done things way different, but since we were in the middle of nowhere he was just slapping a face on them and making a back cut to show the correct ratios.
I bet, I'm trying to transition into retirement from here, and 50 this October. With 21 years, but actually almost 22 years of service. Then continue my outside tree work.
Sounds like a real good plan! Make it happen!
I like it. That’s what I’d do if I was cuttin there and not wanting to tear up the log. Makes me wanna go look at those ashes or whatever I cut from under the pine and see how they hinged or pulled or cracked or didn’t. I just faced and back cut them “normally”. With the pine leaning on them the back cuts started to open pretty quick. I might should have wrapped them to keep them from chairing. I wouldn’t have wanted to bore the back cut because I wouldn’t know how much wood to leave or not. Also, main consideration was not getting squashed, saving wood be danged.
I select cut. No strips here. All select cut on privately owned land. I typically cut 3, limb and top, then skid those 3 out (that’s all the machine can handle per turn). By then I’m out of fuel on the saw anyway, so fuel up at the landing. Head back and drop 3 more, etc etc.
That's good
funny
Thank u
Lot more kickback on those powerheads with 20 inch bars too. Can also limb and reach and cut more limbs from one side of the tree or walking it with a 32 or 36 inch bar. Well my opinion still is, if ots their preference that's cool
one of the first things I was taught, avoid breakage avoid breakage avoid breakage. I wish I was standing g next to some strictly hardwood cutter loggers, to prove some methods. There's ways to do it and not break em, and pull tons of fiber. And my goodness what they waste in some high stumps. I high stump alot in tree work, and roadside stuff for safety or obsticales. But logging is a different story here low low low, and I can do it when needed. 28inch bar is pretty darn handy, I used some before I hurt my back, unfortunately had to give them up, because that slide forward lean after my back injury, was making me sore quick. These light bars are all I run anymore anyway for saw weight reasons, so weight isn't as much the factor as it used to be imo.
Thanks for the input I'm glad you had some good tips given to you, by someone knowledgeable. I agree.
