Kinda crazy an non college educated fella like myself can ID trees. We have 5 other guys working for us and they know oaks from Maples etc, but off species they dont have the foggiest idea what it is. I got my education from a technical school while I was I'm high school, I enjoyed it and applied myself and learned trees and woody shrubs. Its still amazing to me how many people have legitimate sized businesses and cant even I'd trees correctly. Not implying anything on here by this just a rant about dumb trees guys haha.