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Thanks Poge, I will study it in greater detail with the documentation in hand.

Mark
 
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Just seen something from stihl that a new kind of power is coming out. Anyone heard anything about this?
 

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Can someone with an 045/056 that came with a Bosch coil take a pic of where the timing mark is? I'm converting a Mag II to a Bosch coil and the timing mark on the case is way off so I'm trying to find a baseline to start setting the timing from.
 

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Either way, I'm pretty sure you'll still need the Bosch flywheel/fanwheel along with said ignition module to get the timing right. And if you're this far into it I'd recommend the "Foggy Fix" for an electronic module just because.

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Either way, I'm pretty sure you'll still need the Bosch flywheel/fanwheel along with said ignition module to get the timing right. And if you're this far into it I'd recommend the "Foggy Fix" for an electronic module just because.

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I have the Bosch coil/flywheel combo, my issue is the original timing mark is at the 10 o'clock mark and the one on the coil is at the 1-2 o'clock mark. I'll have to dig up a set of calipers to set the saw to .11 BTDC as shown and transfer the timing mark, and I also learned I'll need a new plug wire as my old one is shot (and may be the cause of the "death" of my previous coil).
 

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I somehow deleted half the text in that post. Oh, well. Not important anyway. LOL

That 1-2 o'clock mark just sounds wrong. If the coil is mounted to the plate correctly the mark should be in that 10 0'clock area. I do have a SEM 056 (bad ignition). I'll dig it out if no one else jumps in with something more defintive on the subject.

(Kill wire rub-through is also a notorious problem with the 1115 saws.)
 

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I somehow deleted half the text in that post. Oh, well. Not important anyway. LOL

That 1-2 o'clock mark just sounds wrong. If the coil is mounted to the plate correctly the mark should be in that 10 0'clock area. I do have a SEM 056 (bad ignition). I'll dig it out if no one else jumps in with something more defintive on the subject.

(Kill wire rub-through is also a notorious problem with the 1115 saws.)
I could very well be looking at the wrong mark, but when I utilize the original holes in the base the mark I was looking at is in the 1-2 o'clock region.
 

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I just center the slots in the plate over the threads in the case and tighten things down (with fingers crossed). Been lucky so far. Also been wanting to get a dial gauge for awhile and keep putting it off. Then another one of these types of ignitions rolls my way with no spark reminding me I still need to get one.
 

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I learned something the last couple of days .The early roller nose bars are not the same length as a hard nose .Borrowing a 24" roller nose from a super 44A to a 125 the danged chain was about a driver short of working with the chain from the 44A . So not having a loop of .404 that would fit I took the hard nose bar off a 105 with did of course fit .Mama mia will a 125 fly with a short bar .I need a .404 saw to make the entry cuts on the cotton wood before the 084 Stihl takes over .Much easier than trying to handle a 42" bar . Those big old Clydesdale saws are neat to buck with but not so neat to fell with . Like I've said before about like a bowling ball on a broom stick .
 

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Looks like some nice 3D printer work there Ira.

Al -don't try to make up cuts with a hardnose bar, the extra drag almost stops the saw...if you have to make two or three cuts be sure they are all down.

Mark
 

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This cotton wood is nearly 6 feet across . The hard nose will only be used as starter cuts maybe 6 inches deep . Enough to hold up the 42" bar on the Stihl 084 . My bud is going to do the fall and I'm going to be on "Ollie " ,my old Oliver bull dozer giving it a tug if needed 200 feet away . This thing lost all it's leaves about 2 weeks ago but I want to get it on the ground before the hawk of winter arrives .A tree this size could really do some damage .
 

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To add to the above it might have been 10-12 years that avatar picture was taken .That was a 117 feet red oak damaged by 90-100 MPH straight line winds of a tornado .It was put on the ground with a 2100S Homelite using a 48" McCulloch hard nose bar . Between 3 saws ,Mac 125 ,Stihl 084 and Homelite 2100S I'm not sure if there is much difference other than speed .They've all got enough power to pull long bars and they are all heavy . I'll just say the difference between 36" and 42"-48 "bars is like night and day.
 

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To add to the above it might have been 10-12 years that avatar picture was taken .That was a 117 feet red oak damaged by 90-100 MPH straight line winds of a tornado .It was put on the ground with a 2100S Homelite using a 48" McCulloch hard nose bar . Between 3 saws ,Mac 125 ,Stihl 084 and Homelite 2100S I'm not sure if there is much difference other than speed .They've all got enough power to pull long bars and they are all heavy . I'll just say the difference between 36" and 42"-48 "bars is like night and day.

I agree Al , it really surprised me how much difference there is once a bar gets bigger then 34" for me ( I'm not tall) .
I do get a decent chance to cut larger trees more than most on the east coast due to the nature of my job.
I do think bigger trees are more forgiving with the hinge though as gravity is working more in your favor of getting the tree moving.
 

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Gravity will be the deciding factor on the cotton wood which I guessed as 18 to 20,000 pounds . If it doesn't go on it's own is where the old dozer comes into play .It will only need to move a couple of feet to send it on it's way . 1" three strand nylon is rated for about 25,000 pounds tensile and the dozer might at best tug 7-8,000, dead load That's all it will take to shake the ground .--I'll try to get some pictures .This one will draw a crowd of spectators . I'll breathe a lot easier when this job is done .
 

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Point is, it could give the dozer a ride if it's not high enough for the necessary leverage and the tree decides to fall the wrong direction.
 
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