The forestry and logging pictures thread

[Skeans1]

WTF is going on?

What don’t you understand? What a cutting card is? What a disc saw/hot saw is?


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[RI Chevy]

Hmmm. I responded to a post, but the post isn't there anymore...
No worries carry on...

 

[jacob j.]

Got a fun fact got a cutting card not long ago it says all conventional faces will reject the logs and all hot saw cut trees will be rejected.


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What if there's a processor on the landing slicking off both ends? Are they going to have a problem with that?

 

[Skeans1]

What if there's a processor on the landing slicking off both ends? Are they going to have a problem with that?

From what we’ve understand yes they’re seeing more cracks from the hot saws then a standard 404 or 3/4 saw chain. This is for hardwoods right now but it makes you wonder what’s around the corner.


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[jacob j.]

From what we’ve understand yes they’re seeing more cracks from the hot saws then a standard 404 or 3/4 saw chain. This is for hardwoods right now but it makes you wonder what’s around the corner.


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That's interesting - I can buy it in hardwoods though for sure, especially with mills these days trying to recover everything. The last Seneca job I was on, we had to slick off everything and we couldn't ship anything
with sweep over a few degrees. We had to leave all pistol butts in the unit. With the way wood prices are going, I think it's only going to get worse.

 

[Skeans1]

That's interesting - I can buy it in hardwoods though for sure, especially with mills these days trying to recover everything. The last Seneca job I was on, we had to slick off everything and we couldn't ship anything
with sweep over a few degrees. We had to leave all pistol butts in the unit. With the way wood prices are going, I think it's only going to get worse.

Oh yeah heck it’s camp run pricing but with a 30’ per load average requirement which makes it fun too especially with alder.


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[Johnmn]

That's interesting to me that they won't take logs cut by a hot saw, I could see if the buncher had a shear head on it. I have seen splits 8ft up from a shear in hardwood!

 

[Skeans1]

That's interesting to me that they won't take logs cut by a hot saw, I could see if the buncher had a shear head on it. I have seen splits 8ft up from a shear in hardwood!

Alder is very soft to put it nicely, chairs when you look at it wrong and has some unique characteristics. For processing it we have to watch what feed wheels are ran, how tight they squeeze, and they can’t spin on the logs. Back in the Midwest you guys can run full spike rollers on your hardwoods that doesn’t fly and will get a no pay load real fast.


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[SpaceBus]

Sorry, not really experience with logger jargon, what is a "hot saw"?

 

[Johnmn]

Alder is very soft to put it nicely, chairs when you look at it wrong and has some unique characteristics. For processing it we have to watch what feed wheels are ran, how tight they squeeze, and they can’t spin on the logs. Back in the Midwest you guys can run full spike rollers on your hardwoods that doesn’t fly and will get a no pay load real fast.


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Interesting, I have said it before and I'll say it again. I find it interesting how different logging is around the country. I think it would be neat to spend some time out west and in the east just to see what you guys are doing. If nothing else a guy would come away with more knowledge of the trade.

 

[Skeans1]

Sorry, not really experience with logger jargon, what is a "hot saw"?

A hot saw is a continuous spinning disc saw for a buncher that’s pushed through a tree before it’s normally grabbed.
@CLEARCUT he has one maybe he can describe it better.


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[Johnmn]

The area I live in northern Minnesota is mainly hardwood but in the early 1900's it was just about strictly red and white pine. It was logged heavily until the late 40's or so. It then went through a time of "prairie" and now it's hardwood and pretty thick. There is spots where 2-300 year old white pines still stand and they are pretty impressive.

As a young boy my great grandpa had a job where he would go out at night and dump buckets of water on the logging roads to "ice the roads" I think he did that when he was 10-12 years old. Pretty crazy what kids did back then compared to today!

 

[Johnmn]

A log drive on a river only a few miles from my house.

Overloaded? Nah throw a few more logs on there!

 

[CLEARCUT]

A hot saw is a continuous spinning disc saw for a buncher that’s pushed through a tree before it’s normally grabbed.
@CLEARCUT he has one maybe he can describe it better.


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Here’s my buncher. Like @Skeans1 said, a continuous rotation disc saw-head. You cut the tree, grab it, and then put it in a pile or what-not. Not that simple in reality, but that’s the concept.

 

[SpaceBus]

View attachment 296011 View attachment 296012 View attachment 296013 View attachment 296014 View attachment 296015 Here’s my buncher. Like @Skeans1 said, a continuous rotation disc saw-head. You cut the tree, grab it, and then put it in a pile or what-not. Not that simple in reality, but that’s the concept.

The "cutters" look like the carbide cutters on my stump grinder. I assume that means the disc really grinds through the tree instead of cutting it.

 

[CLEARCUT]

The "cutters" look like the carbide cutters on my stump grinder. I assume that means the disc really grinds through the tree instead of cutting it.

These aren’t carbide tipped, although they do have some. I’d say that it does actually cut, as there are some decent sized chips getting strewn about.

 

[CLEARCUT]

 

[CLEARCUT]

One little steeper pitch in the bottom, otherwise everything else is buncher ground for sure. But we’re hand-falling all of it while their bunchers sit. Interesting.

 

[Skeans1]

View attachment 296050View attachment 296051View attachment 296052View attachment 296053View attachment 296054One little steeper pitch in the bottom, otherwise everything else is buncher ground for sure. But we’re hand-falling all of it while their bunchers sit. Interesting.

Wonder if they’re worried about ground compaction and ruts from after the fire?


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[bigbadbob]

All that burnt wood,,
What happens to it??
Lumber,, if so what happens to the bark.
Chips?? Do they debark it??