stihl 034/036

[94BULLITT]

Not all of them came with the tilly, but some did. I've never seen an 036 that came with a tilly.

The 036 doesn't have a muffler spacer. That I'm 100% on. It does have a heat shield and gasket.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that adding a 48mm jug to a 46mm standard 034 requires the spacer if the original muffler is to be used. If you go with the 036 muffler, it's just a bolt on.

The 48mm 034S and the 48mm 036 jugs do have both internal and external differences, even though the bore is the same. It may only be needed on the 034S jug.

Maybe someone can post and IPL? I have a minty 034S that I've yet to pull apart.

This is the spacer

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My dad bought an 034s new in 1988. It doesn't have a spacer or a tilly.

I worked on an early 034 that had a tilly.


The later 036 is what has the spacer with a more choked up muffler.

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[drf256]

My dad bought an 034s new in 1988. It doesn't have a spacer or a tilly.

I worked on an early 034 that had a tilly.


The later 036 is what has the spacer with a more choked up muffler.

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Never worked on an 034S myself.

Built about 15- 036. None had any spacer or baffling in muffler.

 

[94BULLITT]

Never worked on an 034S myself.

Built about 15- 036. None had any spacer or baffling in muffler.

Did any of them 036s have a spacer?

The 036 mufflers I'm talking about are AM mufflers.

I need to look at the muffler on my 036 for sure to see about the baffling. I know it does not have a spacer.

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[Windthrown]

According to the 034/034S IPL, there are 3 different carb options on the 034/034S saws, and 3 different muffler bodies, as well as 5 different muffler covers (including a dual port muffler cover option). The IPL shows the muffler spacer (called a flange) on the Canadian models. Like the 026 saws, the mufflers became more choked up on later models. No need to change out the muffler, just order up the dual port muffler cover to let it breathe a lot more. I did that on the 044 saws that I had.

The 036 and later 360 IPL shows no flanges in the muffler section of the saws. The IPL for the 036 and 360 show 3 different carbs, and multiple muffler combinations.

 

[94BULLITT]

My IPLs also show the spacer on the Canadian 034. I was going to get some pics of the muffler on the 034S but I did not get a chance. I also have an 036 but since I bought it used I don't know if it has the original muffler on it.

Since we are talking about 034S, does anybody have a clutch drum or two they wanna get rid of that takes a mini spline rim sprocket, the clutch drum with the small bearing?

 

[drf256]

I have a brand new spur drive for an 036. May have the small rim drive as well-gotta look.

Is the larger MS360 clutch drum and bearing the same as the MS440's?

 

[dall]

i think they are al

 

[94BULLITT]

I took some pics.

Here is the 034S, you can see muffler, and the Zama Carb. This saw was made in Germany. Is this a different muffler than what you are talking about @drf256?







Here is an 036, same muffler as above, and a Zama. This saw was made in the US.






Here is a AM "036 muffler." I have 2 of these and they require a spacer. The front cover off an OEM muffler will not fit.






Then I took a family portrait, 024S, 034S, 026, and 036.

 

[drf256]

Nice saws.

I've never seen a muffler like that on an 036, but I'm no expert.

 

[dall]

Nice saws.

I've never seen a muffler like that on an 036, but I'm no expert.

you know how to make them run al

 

[drf256]

you know how to make them run al

Thanks.

Bullet proved how many variations there are.

Any 036 muffler I've seen has been an open can.

 

[huskihl]

My 034 super is an exact copy of Bullit's. Muffler and all. My 036 is a newer plastic badge decomp and has a hollow can. I know nothing about the spacer or different designs though

 

[drf256]

My 034S looks like Bullit's as well.

I've never met an 036 with internal baffling myself, including my own which is very old.

Not saying it ain't possible.

 

[Windthrown]

034/036/360 mufflers were like the 024/026/260 mufflers. There was a whole series from wide open to completely choked up.

 

[94BULLITT]

My 024S has the worst muffler on it.

 

[drf256]

Here's a pic, so something is up.

Looks like the 034/034S/036 cylingers have different spacing between center bore and exhaust flange.

Look at the difference in length. The 034S muffler is the longer one within patina.

 

[94BULLITT]

So you would need a spacer to run the 036 muffler on a 034?

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[drf256]

No idea. I'm thinking the exhaust flanges are set back more in the 034 than the 036.

 

[94BULLITT]

Try the mufflers and see how they fit. What do the mufflers look like on the inside? I've always thought the 036 had a thicker exhaust flange, which is why it you need a spacer to run a 036 muffler on a 034. The weird thing is my 036 has a 034 muffler on it with out a spacer. I bet it is an early saw. I bet the reason the IPL shows the Canadian 034 with a spacer is because they used an 036 style muffler.

 

[Windthrown]

My 036 PRO had an open and empty can for a muffler body, and a LARGER side exhaust port than later models. It did not need a muffler mod. No spacer/flange on it. That saw was loud from the factory.