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I wonder if it’s a viscosity thing, maybe less friction from the thinner oil? I know red armor is pretty thick and the numbers kinda correlate. That being said, more HP for maybe less protection? Just thinking out loud here maybe I am off.
 

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Bodie and Joe did a video testing different oils including moto milk on his dyno.

Is it ironic that he says at the end that he can't "put his thumb" on why the Stihl Ultra cut more slowly in his hands, when he kept his thumb off of the top of the handle of the saw for 8-10 seconds during the cut?

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Is it ironic that he says at the end that he can't "put his thumb" on why the Stihl Ultra cut more slowly in his hands, when he kept his thumb off of the top of the handle of the saw for 8-10 seconds during the cut?

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That guy does a lot of stuff like that to alter results. I don't think he even knows he's doing it. My favorite is when he puts his build up against a well known saw builder's and runs a really short bar because his don't have as much torque.
 

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Sticker shock! Increased from $37.99 last year to $40.99+tax now.View attachment 462567
Not recommended for use in those 2-cycle engines that employ the use of rotary valves or power-valves or 2-cycle engines (*air cooled) that specify API TC, JASO FA, JASO FB, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGB, ISO -L-EGD, ISO-L-EGC and TISI quality 2-cycle oils.
 

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That guy does a lot of stuff like that to alter results. I don't think he even knows he's doing it. My favorite is when he puts his build up against a well known saw builder's and runs a really short bar because his don't have as much torque.
What makes you say that?
 

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Not recommended for use in those 2-cycle engines that employ the use of rotary valves or power-valves or 2-cycle engines (*air cooled) that specify API TC, JASO FA, JASO FB, JASO FC, ISO-L-EGB, ISO -L-EGD, ISO-L-EGC and TISI quality 2-cycle oils.
Correct, JASO FD appears to be okay.
 

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Correct, JASO FD appears to be okay.
This came from their website. NOTE: Supreme 7000™ Synthetic Plus 2-Cycle Oil is not recommended for use in those 2-cycle engines that employ the use of rotary valves or power-valves or 2-cycle engines (*air cooled) that specify API TC, JASO FA, JASO FB, JASO FC, JASO FD, ISO-L-EGB, ISO -L-EGC, ISO-L-EGD and TISI quality 2-cycle oils. (See 9046 2-Cycle Outdoor Power Equipment Engine Oil or 9006 Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic 2-Cycle Racing Oil for these specifications.) Jaso FD is 4th JASO listed. Your saws, run what you think is best, just stating what they recommend.
 

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What makes you say that?
He comes across as genuinely sincere explaining how honest and fair his tests are, then he does things like what was pointed out above that would alter results. He did one heat comparison with an infrared gun and obviously doesn't know how to use an infrared gun.
 

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He comes across as genuinely sincere explaining how honest and fair his tests are, then he does things like what was pointed out above that would alter results. He did one heat comparison with an infrared gun and obviously doesn't know how to use an infrared gun.
I think he is genuine, he’s just not very good at eliminating variables. He’s very fallible. He often says and does things that seem completely off to me, then a month or 2 later he mentions his mistake. Or he remains convinced of things that I disagree with. Seems like he’s just trying to learn like the rest of us. When I think about my own tests and ideas, they seem similarly flawed. Test cuts in particular tend to produce false or questionable evidence. But they’re fun!
 

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Anyone still running this stuff from 2017? I still have 2 1/2 cases.View attachment 462694
@Wilhelm might be very interested in this oil?

I'd run that in half a heartbeat before any other oil!

Can't legally ship oil/fluids over the pond.
Croatian customs opened each and every package I received from the US so far, if they'd find oil in one they'd confiscate the whole package and I may get in some sort of trouble.
 

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He comes across as genuinely sincere explaining how honest and fair his tests are, then he does things like what was pointed out above that would alter results. He did one heat comparison with an infrared gun and obviously doesn't know how to use an infrared gun.
Gotcha, yeah none of us are perfect and we can't please everyone. I respect that he admits his faults.
 

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I think he is genuine, he’s just not very good at eliminating variables. He’s very fallible. He often says and does things that seem completely off to me, then a month or 2 later he mentions his mistake. Or he remains convinced of things that I disagree with. Seems like he’s just trying to learn like the rest of us. When I think about my own tests and ideas, they seem similarly flawed. Test cuts in particular tend to produce false or questionable evidence. But they’re fun!
Yeah you nailed it, he seems genuine and honest, but like all of us, he makes the occasional mistake, but I like that he admits it. The only difference is his content (and mine too) is online - you can't hide from it when it's up and you're wrong LOL.
 

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This came from their website. NOTE: Supreme 7000™ Synthetic Plus 2-Cycle Oil is not recommended for use in those 2-cycle engines that employ the use of rotary valves or power-valves or 2-cycle engines (*air cooled) that specify API TC, JASO FA, JASO FB, JASO FC, JASO FD, ISO-L-EGB, ISO -L-EGC, ISO-L-EGD and TISI quality 2-cycle oils. (See 9046 2-Cycle Outdoor Power Equipment Engine Oil or 9006 Supreme 9000 Full Synthetic 2-Cycle Racing Oil for these specifications.) Jaso FD is 4th JASO listed. Your saws, run what you think is best, just stating what they recommend.
Thank you, as long as none of the above are concerned about the health of the operator I will continue to use it unless I can find something lower cost than this. It’s only a chainsaw. I use this oil as a diesel fuel lubricity enhancer as well.
 

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Yeah you nailed it, he seems genuine and honest, but like all of us, he makes the occasional mistake, but I like that he admits it. The only difference is his content (and mine too) is online - you can't hide from it when it's up and you're wrong LOL.
I get a kick out of the guy and watch just about every video if it's chainsaw related. He builds some strong saws. Over all he comes across to me like he's a good guy that's a bit full of his self but is trying not to be.
 
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Is it ironic that he says at the end that he can't "put his thumb" on why the Stihl Ultra cut more slowly in his hands, when he kept his thumb off of the top of the handle of the saw for 8-10 seconds during the cut?

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Same dude did an ignition advance on a 590, runs 87 octane fuel, doesn't get the low jet dialed in, and blames the running issue on the rev limiter.

Says it needs a "620" coil. Newsflash: It's not bouncing off the limiter and it doesnnt need a 620 coil. I run a similarly modified 590 in my tree service and logging fleet. My 590 with ignition advanced has that same exact low speed "cackle" if you don't get the octane right and the low speed jet properly rich.

EVERY SINGLE saw porter on this forum could hear what was wrong with that saw and tell you exactly whats wrong.

I actually advise folks to take no more than .010 off the flywheel key on the 590 timberwolf. They'll tune much easier. .020 off the flywheel key is OK too, BUT, u better pay attention to the octane rating and the low speed jet!

The saw tuning circus starts at 10 mins:

You cant tell the guy anything. He knows everything.

When I hear "motomilk is the best", its a great vomit inducer.
 
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