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Took delivery of a couple Tsumura bar and chain combos today. Haven't tried the new version yet, but the older version has been solid for me.
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The new ones are a little bit more flexy to me , compared to the old ones, but quality is vey good .
 

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The new ones are a little bit more flexy to me , compared to the old ones, but quality is vey good .
I just went and checked, and it does seem to flex a slight bit more than the old ones, but nowhere near how flexible the old Oregon lightweight bars were. So, that's good. These are only 28". That should make a difference being a bit shorter. I wonder how flimsy the new style is in a 36". I have an Oregon lightweight 36" and it's almost a pain to use, for me, because of how floppy it is. I'm sure some of that is me, but still.
 

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I just went and checked, and it does seem to flex a slight bit more than the old ones, but nowhere near how flexible the old Oregon lightweight bars were. So, that's good. These are only 28". That should make a difference being a bit shorter. I wonder how flimsy the new style is in a 36". I have an Oregon lightweight 36" and it's almost a pain to use, for me, because of how floppy it is. I'm sure some of that is me, but still.
Yup , I didn’t venture past 28 “ for that reason to , and yes I have a half dozen of the Oregon RW in 32-36. “ for bucking big wood there good to have knowing there 2 pounds lighter than a solid bar of same length,
 

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Yup , I didn’t venture past 28 “ for that reason to , and yes I have a half dozen of the Oregon RW in 32-36. “ for bucking big wood there good to have knowing there 2 pounds lighter than a solid bar of same length,
Yeah, bucking is one place they do good, in my experience. I have a heavy Stihl 36", Tsumura lightweight 36"(older version) and a Oregon Powercut 36" (I think that's the model) and there's a definite weight difference.

I mostly just bought these 2 to put on the shelf. Add some more surplus to the inventory.
 

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…over the x27 which just gets stuck in the wood here. The x32/36 have a wider angle but apparently it doesn’t help as much as I’d hope. Oh well plenty of other classier wood handled splitters to play with.
Well I am a short and squatty son of a gun and will tell you I prefer the longer one.
 

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Well I am a short and squatty son of a gun and will tell you I prefer the longer one.

I am 6’, I like 36”. For less I gotta put the round up on a splitting block or get it in the shins if I miss.

Best base I’ve found is plywood on concrete.
 

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I am 6’, I like 36”. For less I gotta put the round up on a splitting block or get it in the shins if I miss.

Best base I’ve found is plywood on concrete.

This what confused me........

I almost bought a fiskars x36 but read it’s not much of an improvement

I used to be 6 ft but lots of injuries, surgeries with hardware, and age has shrunk me a bit.
 

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what’s a good price?
First one looks to have a 1 1/4" x 40” x7' top. 2nd 1/2” x 4' x 8’. Both have very solid well built bases.
I do not know about 1.25" but I got a quote last week of $665.32 for 0.75" and $1126.76 for 1.00" cold roll 4'x8' plate. That is delivered. I bet I can find it cheaper but I just got the quote as a baseline.
 

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I do not know about 1.25" but I got a quote last week of $665.32 for 0.75" and $1126.76 for 1.00" cold roll 4'x8' plate. That is delivered. I bet I can find it cheaper but I just got the quote as a baseline.
Wow! That much for plate only. Going by your numbers, maybe $500 to $750 for the .75 complete work table and $1200-$1750 for the thicker top one sound about right? I don't know what they're asking. It may be what they charge for remnants and scrap, which in itself isn't cheap and I have no idea what these tables weigh. My guess is a ton each, give or take.
 

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Wow! That much for plate only. Going by your numbers, maybe $500 to $750 for the .75 complete work table and $1200-$1750 for the thicker top one sound about right? I don't know what they're asking. It may be what they charge for remnants and scrap, which in itself isn't cheap and I have no idea what these tables weigh. My guess is a ton each, give or take.
As I said I am betting I can find it cheaper but I just got that as a baseline. I try to start at the high end shopping and move down. You notice how much the price went up from .075 to 1.00. that extra .250 was a poop ton. They are also bringing it a wee bit of distance.

I did not order any.
 

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If the tables are for sale my opinion is you will not see that big of difference in price though as most folks do not have the ability to handle the larger one.
 

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If the tables are for sale my opinion is you will not see that big of difference in price though as most folks do not have the ability to handle the larger one.
Good point. Probably not too many people that will pay extra for a top twice as thick as they need it to be. I said 1.25 but it might be 1.5.
 

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Good point. Probably not too many people that will pay extra for a top twice as thick as they need it to be. I said 1.25 but it might be 1.5.
It's depends on the buying audience and product but many times the larger, heavier items do not sell as well as the smaller ones. I remember when the Arsenal was selling several large 600 amp Miller CC/CV welders they went for pennies in comparison to what a 250 amp unit will bring.
 
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