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I didn't realise but the 9010 has the same configuration as another great saw you don't see much of these days the Dolmar 144 52mm X 42mm

Here's a few more

122. 44mm x 40mm 1.1
122 super 47mm X 40mm. 1.175
123. 47mm x 40mm. 1.175
133 52mm x 40mm. 1.3
143 55mm x 40mm. 1.375
152 / 153 55mm x 42mm 1.309

6400 47mm x 37mm. 1.27
6100. 47mm x 35mm. 1.34

603. 56mm x 42mm 1.333
662. 46mm x 38mm 1.21
Rex 54mm x 54mm. 1.00
Super Rex 58mm x 54mm 1.074
Twin 100 40mm x 40mm 1.00
Twin 110 42mm x 40mm 1.05

Jonsereds XF. 56mm x 45mm 1.244

Speaking of a 144

One tanks worth of cutting yesterday

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Look to the far left, will see something to appear in a milling thread..
 

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I looked up the specs on that little Dolmar 110 I picked up as a junker.
Ratio of about 1.12 ish

I have put it up on the bench to see if I can get it cleaned up and running in the coming weeks and see how it runs
 

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Great topic guys.

Always made me wonder why domed/hemi piston and chambers are used by manufacturers as well. There will be more surface area to cool and exert force downwards with a dome.

I think of stroke like the pedals of a bike. Longer ones are a longer lever arm, so they will make more torque at a lower rpm. Piston speed will be faster with a longer stroke, so parasitic losses will be higher-inertia and friction. Use a 4 ft pipe on the back of a monkey wrench (no offense Randy) and you're gonna move something less distance but with greater force than a 1 ft bar. It will just take you longer to do so.

Bigger bores allow for more port surface area. That's why I always want the bigger bore on a model. It's not always because of the displacement increase.

The 038 vs. 044 issue has always boggled my mind. The 038 is more of a torque Saw than an rpm Saw, but it's more oversquare. It's likely the porting that makes the difference than the geometry itself.

Bigger bores also cool less effectively than smaller bores. There's less surface area of fins in relation to bore. Less heat needs to be added for combustion efficiency, hence why smaller bores like more compression.
A little off topic however has a large impact on this debate, interior design and size of muffler can. I'm not talking about hot saw type pipes I'm talking factory cans.
You can alter the interior design so a short stroke acts more like long stroke and visa versa. You can take a stock can, redesign the flow path, and tune to desired power band.
 

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A little off topic however has a large impact on this debate, interior design and size of muffler can. I'm not talking about hot saw type pipes I'm talking factory cans.
You can alter the interior design so a short stroke acts more like long stroke and visa versa. You can take a stock can, redesign the flow path, and tune to desired power band.
In a saw muffler can? Or are you talking about trucks?
 
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