Saw builds

[Redfin]

Is there an advantage to the 395 piston or is it just because they are available?

Availabilty , and transfer flow are the pluses. 395 slug has a much shorter crown height which needs to drop the jug fairly far. The case under the intake block and carb needs clearanced to fit.

 

[Brewz]

Well the OEM piston in my 2100 is still near new so I will stick with it for the build.

 

[Brewz]

I am thinking a touch of base sanding and thin gasket for .025 squish, and then grind to 100/123/76.

Transfers won't be touched, they are at 123 with no gasket.

 

[Brewz]

The muffler will also get some serious work and a pod filter on a V stack...... It should go like the clappers

 

[jake wells]

Niko is known for the posting of huskys have the "Best sideways balance "

sideways balance all my huskys fall over they need a kick stand.

 

[smokey7]

@Brewz if it was me I'd build it stock first. See how the classic muscle fits your style. Put it forsale if it sells great if someone wants it spicy you have a direction to head. I think this us a saw I would be very careful how I proceed.

 

[Redfin]

@Brewz if it was me I'd build it stock first. See how the classic muscle fits your style. Put it forsale if it sells great if someone wants it spicy you have a direction to head. I think this us a saw I would be very careful how I proceed.

Thread killer.

 

[smokey7]

Thread killer.

I agree that it does kill the thread on the 2100. When something has rare or hard to find stuff I think twice about what I'm doing. Plus once you mod it cut squish machine work and such you cut out a ton of buyers. I know several guys that would buy a big saw like that just would never own a modded one except mufflers. I myself am curious of its stock running power and then maybe a small change that could still appeal to a stock guy.

 

[Iron.and.bark]

I agree that it does kill the thread on the 2100. When something has rare or hard to find stuff I think twice about what I'm doing. Plus once you mod it cut squish machine work and such you cut out a ton of buyers. I know several guys that would buy a big saw like that just would never own a modded one except mufflers. I myself am curious of its stock running power and then maybe a small change that could still appeal to a stock guy.

Interesting viewpoint. I don't think it kills it, but it depends on what to you is a build.

Secondly, if the cylinder was damaged and the "owner" forked out to get it replated would it be wrong to then mod the cylinder?

My point in the 2100 thread was if you build a saw for milling, you don't build a cookie cutting machine

 

[Brewz]

Yeah I am tending to agree with keeping it stock.
Its a classic, it has a pristine OEM top end and even though I would like to mess with it, I also agree it will hurt its value.

Most people buying a saw here in Oz seem to be terrified of a saw that's been rebuilt.

 

[smokey7]

If the jug was damaged by all means do it up. Since someone would be getting it plated it would not be cost effective to resale. My pops is one that wants nothing to do with a modded saw, has terrible luck with rebuilt strokes. Now give him a snowmobile and he will be right at home. It's real weird how some will run a modified sled ski or bike but won't want a modded saw. I want all of my stuff to run as sharp as possible. I also believe we can still have alot of fun with the 2100 thread keeping it more on the stock side of things.

 

[Iron.and.bark]

Most people buying a saw here in Oz seem to be terrified of a saw that's been rebuilt.

You don't say rebuilt, you say "tricked out", " worked" etc

 

[mortalitool]

I'm working on porting my 028 super for an upcoming saw race. Also working on a tree service guys saws. 2x 461, 200t, 201t, 192t, 193t. Half of the saws just needed small things. 200t needed new piston. Saved the cylinder. 201t needed a new muffler due to it falling off and cracking. Which is sort of odd to see a crack on the belly of the muffler. 461s I replaced crank seals and got the treatment of new intake boot and impulse line. Should keep them running longer due to the abuse they see. Spark plugs all around. Few air filters. 1 of the 461 needed a new front handle, I ordered a wrap one for it been waiting for 2 weeks for that to come in. On back order. 192t needed new recoil.

Always a saw on my bench. Just started porting some of my personal saws. Been reading up on it and studying for about 2 years. Nothing blown up yet! Only doing woods porting as I plan to use them for work. And I expect them to run top notch when I'm using them.

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[Deets066]

Hybrid

 

[drf256]

I like it Deets. Wouldn't you want more case volume, rather than less, in a hybrid though?

 

[Mastermind]

I like it Deets. Wouldn't you want more case volume, rather than less, in a hybrid though?

Well, what he is doing here will tell us more about that maybe. I've wondered about that, and even thought I had a idea of what worked on them, but I see things that I didn't think would work turn out to work great.....

 

[Onan18]

I like it Deets. Wouldn't you want more case volume, rather than less, in a hybrid though?

I am an idiot when it comes to such things but I believe part of the reason that Hybrids run so good is the smaller case volume. Smaller case volume = more primary compression = higher transfer velocity = better exhaust scavenging and more complete cylinder fill is the way I understand it or am I completely wrong here? I know most new saws are going for tight case volume either by use of stuffers (I.e. 562 and 550) of just s small case period (7900/7910 Dolmar).

Joe

 

[drf256]

I like how he accomplished smoothing out that lip without increasing tunnel volume-definitely a simple but great idea there.

I just have always heard complaints about how the 44/46 hybrid doesn't run like an 046 because it lacked case volume. When I eventually do mine, I was thinking of doing just the opposite of what Deets did.

 

[drf256]

I am an idiot when it comes to such things but I believe part of the reason that Hybrids run so good is the smaller case volume. Smaller case volume = more primary compression = higher transfer velocity = better exhaust scavenging and more complete cylinder fill is the way I understand it or am I completely wrong here? I know most new saws are going for tight case volume either by use of stuffers (I.e. 562 and 550) of just s small case period (7900/7910 Dolmar).

Joe

You would be correct Joe, but there is some rule about case capacity vs. cylinder displacement floating around.

A hybrid will need to take more gulps to move the same amount of air as the larger parent saw. I believe that's why they gain so much rpm.

I've seen a lot of guys who really know there stuff convert their 044's back to the 50mm jug because they weren't happy with the hybrid.

 

[Redfin]

I like it Deets. Wouldn't you want more case volume, rather than less, in a hybrid though?

I asked the same Al. Eager to see the results.