Saw builds

[Onan18]

You would be correct Joe, but there is some rule about case capacity vs. cylinder displacement floating around.

A hybrid will need to take more gulps to move the same amount of air as the larger parent saw. I believe that's why they gain so much rpm.

I've seen a lot of guys who really know there stuff convert their 044's back to the 50mm jug because they weren't happy with the hybrid.

Thanks Doc, I figured there was something I was missing, wonder where the point of diminishing returns is on case volume vs. cylinder size?

Joe

 

[drf256]

I'd say one would want physically lower transfers on a hybrid. Am I correct in my thinking?

 

[drf256]

Thanks Doc, I figured there was something I was missing, wonder where the point of diminishing returns is on case volume vs. cylinder size?

Joe

I remember Treemonkey posting about it back on the AS. It was a discussion about why an 046 will make more torque than an 044/46 hybrid.

I don't know the formula.

 

[Redfin]

I'd say one would want physically lower transfers on a hybrid. Am I correct in my thinking?

I would think you could get away with that as long as you didnt drastically change the availibilty of incoming air.

 

[drf256]

Should have more transfer pressure John.

 

[Redfin]

I believe Deeter is going with a bit more bd/primary on this one also.

 

[Redfin]

Should have more transfer pressure John.

Yes sir. Great morning to all.

 

[drf256]

All great stuff. I have his first hybrid attempt thread tagged and bookmarked from the AS.

It was an excellent and informative thread.

http://www.arboristsite.com/community/threads/044-build.278354/page-2

 

[Mastermind]

Brad Snelling builds a bad ass hybrid. Wiggs checked the timing numbers in one that Young Reed has, and if I remember correctly it was at 95 on the exhaust, with the transfers at 118. I don't recall the intake, but I think it was about 85.

 

[drf256]

Brad Snelling builds a bad ass hybrid. Wiggs checked the timing numbers in one that Young Reed has, and if I remember correctly it was at 95 on the exhaust, with the transfers at 118. I don't recall the intake, but I think it was about 85.

If Brad raised his intake, which I know he doesn't believe in, I bet he could run a 120-122 transfer and make more torque.

But his durations on int/ex are balanced.

 

[Brewz]

You said his name!

I'm reporting you!

 

[jmssaws]

I try to use transfer velocity to build strong saws and most of the time It works but I got a saw last week that has taught me something,direction can also make giant power,looking at how big the transfers are I'd bet a million it was a turd but I would have lost,it's insanely strong.

 

[Redfin]

Second time this week Ive heard/chatted about balanced int/ex.

 

[mortalitool]

Here are the saws I mentioned earlier in the thread. I like this topic lots of us doing fun things

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[drf256]

Second time this week Ive heard/chatted about balanced int/ex.

And percentage of transfer duration John.

 

[Brewz]

Here are the saws I mentioned earlier in the thread. I like this topic lots of us doing fun things

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I was closer I would come help push the car back off its side

 

[Deets066]

I've tried increasing case capacity via transfers, I may not gave gone about it the correct way but it did indeed increase case volume and I lost power drastically. I may have a few more tweaks with the saw but I like the timing in this one

101.5 - 122 - 80. I cut .022 off the base and chit canned the gasket and set squish to .018. What I like most about it is the upper trans are compleatly stock

 

[Deets066]

This is an old mahle D jug too

 

[Brewz]

I am really seeing a trend of good saw builds with stock uppers

 

[Deets066]

I am really seeing a trend of good saw builds with stock uppers

I never checked them with a gasket, but they had to be about 117-118 which is good stock timing