Remington 700 6.5 Creedmoor

[hseII]

My buddy has a 260 Rem. Isn't the 6.5 Cred a little slower than the 260 rem??
My 264 mag has been a good one.

It’s ballistically the twin of the .260 Remington.

Big Green chit the bed when they rolled out the .260 Remington by marketing it as a brush gun, with too slow a twist & only loading fat soft points: not what the gun writers like Simpson & the wildcatters were doing.

In doing so they didn’t support it so Hornady & others resurrected an obscure casing, necked it down to .264, & viola, the 6.5 Creed was born.

Had Remington done what they were asked to, the Creed wouldn’t exist.


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[Ron660]

It’s ballistically the twin of the .260 Remington.

Big Green chit the bed when they rolled out the .260 Remington by marketing it as a brush gun, with too slow a twist & only loading fat soft points: not what the gun writers like Simpson & the wildcatters were doing.

In doing so they didn’t support it so Hornady & others resurrected an obscure casing, necked it down to .264, & viola, the 6.5 Creed was born.

Had Remington done what they were asked to, the Creed wouldn’t exist.


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I have another older buddy that only uses a 6.5x55 Swed in a Win 70 featherweight. His wife also uses a featherweight but in a 7x57. First time I heard of a 6.5 was the carcano used by Oswald.
Twist rate is important especially if you're trying to spin the 140's way out there. I've had luck with a 1:8 and a 1:8.5 twist.

 

[hseII]

I have another older buddy that only uses a 6.5x55 Swed in a Win 70 featherweight. His wife also uses a featherweight but in a 7x57. First time I heard of a 6.5 was the carcano used by Oswald.
Twist rate is important especially if you're trying to spin the 140's way out there. I've had luck with a 1:8 and a 1:8.5 twist.

Same Here.

I shoot a .260.


The Europeans kill train car loads of Moose every year with 6.5 Sweeds so I’d say it’s good enough for little ol’ whitetails, blacktails, hogs, & speed goats.

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[hseII]

Sounds like my kind of cartridge! My usual formula for a rifle load is a heavier than average bullet at modest velocity, so I'm thinking I will try a 140 grain Sierra Pro Hunter at 2400 fps or so. I'll probably end up painting the stock too. Krylon Fusion works really well on rifle stocks as long as you prep the surface well. I painted the stock on my Howa 1500 around 7 years ago and have hunted with it every year, I bet it still has 95% finish left. I think a flat slate gray would look sharp with the matte black receiver and barrel.

If it’s a 1:8 twist, spool up some 140 Accubonds at around 0.030-0.040” off the lands & work up to 43 grains of an extreme powder like H4350.


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[mdavlee]

If it’s a 1:8 twist, spool up some 140 Accubonds at around 0.030-0.040” off the lands & work up to 43 grains of an extreme powder like H4350.


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I never found a node up that high. I tried a few bullets and powders. 41.6-41.8 was the ticket. Speed was 2700 or real close. IMR 4451 worked nice and was almost a duplicate load for H4350.

 

[hseII]

I never found a node up that high. I tried a few bullets and powders. 41.6-41.8 was the ticket. Speed was 2700 or real close. IMR 4451 worked nice and was almost a duplicate load for H4350.

How far did you push it?


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[Ron660]

My old buddy loads 140 partitions in his 6.5 Swed, Where he hunts a long shot would be 200yds.

 

[FergusonTO35]

I have another older buddy that only uses a 6.5x55 Swed in a Win 70 featherweight. His wife also uses a featherweight but in a 7x57. First time I heard of a 6.5 was the carcano used by Oswald.
Twist rate is important especially if you're trying to spin the 140's way out there. I've had luck with a 1:8 and a 1:8.5 twist.

Your buddy and wife have good taste! I love old school cartridges. The 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano is an oddball, using a .267 diameter bullet. Far as I know, every other 6.5 uses a .264.

 

[FergusonTO35]

My old buddy loads 140 partitions in his 6.5 Swed, Where he hunts a long shot would be 200yds.

Same here. Deer tend to stay in the woods here, you really don't catch them out in the open very often. I would reckon the 140 grain Sierra Game Kings are clocking around 2400 fps out of my Remington. Loading to full power for short distances is asking for a blown up bullet.

 

[mdavlee]

How far did you push it?


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43.2 was heavy bolt lift.

 

[hseII]

43.2 was heavy bolt lift.

How much to the lands?

Was yours a SAMMI chamber?

What kind of velocity?


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[mdavlee]

How much to the lands?

Was yours a SAMMI chamber?

What kind of velocity?


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I don’t remember off the top of my head. I didn’t even chrono the higher loads. They didn’t group well enough. Factory Savage chamber.

 

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[hseII]

I don’t remember off the top of my head. I didn’t even chrono the higher loads. They didn’t group well enough. Factory Savage chamber.

My sicky is long throated so that might have some advantage.

Plus them 3 rings of steel. [emoji6]


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[mdavlee]

My sicky is long throated so that might have some advantage.

Plus them 3 rings of steel. [emoji6]


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If I remember right it’s way long throated too. The 338 was too long to load to the lands and use the magazine

 

[hseII]

If I remember right it’s way long throated too. The 338 was too long to load to the lands and use the magazine

That normally results in a gain of velocity due to pressure reduction & being able to stuff more powder.

Until Compression of Course.


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[FergusonTO35]

That normally results in a gain of velocity due to pressure reduction & being able to stuff more powder.

Until Compression of Course.


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Wasn't that the secret to the Weatherby rounds? Lotsa powder and freebore to keep pressure down and velocity up?

 

[blacksmith]

Wasn't that the secret to the Weatherby rounds? Lotsa powder and freebore to keep pressure down and velocity up?

Yup that's about right! My .300 Weatherby has about 3/4" of free bore, it's a Winchester model 70.

 

[FergusonTO35]

Wow, that's a bunch. What kind of accuracy do you get?

 

[hseII]

Wow, that's a bunch. What kind of accuracy do you get?

That’s a gas gun load that was run in my .260 after assembly.

No tweaking or no adjustments had been performed then.

5 shots @ 100yrds.

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