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[Marshy]

Don't do it.. horses are stupid.

Nice looking garage you have there!

Stack higher!

I thought about adding some 12' boards on the sides to make it a stake rack trailer.

 

[Dub11]

Nice looking garage you have there!


I thought about adding some 12' boards on the sides to make it a stake rack trailer.

Stack them on end?

 

[beaglebriar]

Nice looking garage you have there!


I thought about adding some 12' boards on the sides to make it a stake rack trailer.

Something to ponder: Make the barn small....if it'll hold ten hay burners guess how many you're gonna end up with??

Not that it isn't done but I've never known anyone to use sonotubes for a pole barn. Do you plan to set the poles on top of the tube after it's filled or in it?

 

[beaglebriar]

Stack them on end?

They're 12 feet long Wayne.

 

[p61 western]

They're 12 feet long Wayne.

It would be great entertainment lol.

 

[Dub11]

They're 12 feet long Wayne.

And they're cardboard, they'll self clearance on bridge girders.

 

[Marshy]

And they're cardboard, they'll self clearance on bridge girders.

I prefer them to stay 12'!

The idea is to pour a column in the tube and use a wet set bracket to hold the post on the top of the column. If you level all the tops of the columns with a transit you can build an entire wall on the ground in the brackets and then lift it at one time.

Here is a great explination on preping the tubes then setting the perma column brackets. Second one is building the walls and third is lifting the the walls. Jump to the third video if you just want to watch them lift the walls.

 

[Mkinslow]

Why not just concrete the poles in the ground. My dad and I did them like that for 9 years.

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[Marshy]

Why not just concrete the poles in the ground. My dad and I did them like that for 9 years.

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The post will rot and the column provides a larger bearing surface to soread the load. You can also use a bigfoot on the end on the column to prevent lift from ground heaving.

 

[Mkinslow]

The post will rot and the column provides a larger bearing surface to soread the load. You can also use a bigfoot on the end on the column to prevent lift from ground heaving.
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Gotcha. But I've never seen one rot or rotted. We've moved several buildings that people bought standing and hired us to dismantle and move. Pulled posts out of ground and knocked concrete off with sledgehammer and nothing was wrong with them. Couple of them had been standing for 18-20 years. But I can see where it could be a problem in different types of soil or something.

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[Steve]

I guess building codes are different for pole buildings in the great cold north? We just have to go 32" down and set them in concrete. I get the rot thing though.

 

[Marshy]

Gotcha. But I've never seen one rot or rotted. We've moved several buildings that people bought standing and hired us to dismantle and move. Pulled posts out of ground and knocked concrete off with sledgehammer and nothing was wrong with them. Couple of them had been standing for 18-20 years. But I can see where it could be a problem in different types of soil or something.

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I have sandy loam soil with a very high water table. Plus I plan to build a hay loft and that combined with the snow/structure load could be trouble for a normal post in ground structure. I'm basically guaranteed the post will last more than a lifetime.

 

[Mkinslow]

I guess building codes are different for pole buildings in the great cold north? We just have to go 32" down and set them in concrete. I get the rot thing though.

I hear its 32"deep x 24" circumference here now. Used to be 24"x24"

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[Marshy]

I guess building codes are different for pole buildings in the great cold north? We just have to go 32" down and set them in concrete. I get the rot thing though.

48" here and they do not want post encased in concrete. Plus I believe they want deeper if you have a tall structure. Not sure all of those details yet but will be finding out soon.

 

[Mkinslow]

I have sandy loam soil with a very high water table. Plus I plan to build a hay loft and that combined with the snow/structure load could be trouble for a normal post in ground structure. I'm basically guaranteed the post will last more than a lifetime.

Yeah it's definitely a good idea in those circumstances. Should be around for a long,long time.

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[Mkinslow]

The codes here are different between agricultural or shop. With agricultural only thing to be inspected is post holes. Shop building has full inspection.

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[p61 western]

Going riding tomorrow. My oldest was ready today lol.

 

[stihl_head1982]

Something to ponder: Make the barn small....if it'll hold ten hay burners guess how many you're gonna end up with??

Not that it isn't done but I've never known anyone to use sonotubes for a pole barn. Do you plan to set the poles on top of the tube after it's filled or in it?

This URL may answer your interest.

 

[Bigmac]

This is what happens here
Railroad ties look fine...
And rot from the inside out!

 

[Marshy]

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And rot from the inside out!

Exactly. We bought the property in 2010 and all the 4x4 fence posts that were left were badly rotten. They were less than 14 years old.