Project Farm electric saw shoot-out

[Chainmale]

Brushless Makita DUC353 18+18Volt does the overload shutdown thing.

Brushed Makita UC250D 36Volt just keeps chugging but the 36Volt battery packs have low stamina at mere 2.2Ah & 2.6Ah.

I have the DUC356 Top handle and a Husqvarna 535iXP and it's the overload shutoff that let's the Makita down. The Husqvarna is more powerful and quieter too
* 10" 3/8LP .050 on the Makita
12" .325 Nano .043 on the Husqvarna

 

[sawfun]

I have the DUC356 Top handle and a Husqvarna 535iXP and it's the overload shutoff that let's the Makita down. The Husqvarna is more powerful and quieter too
* 10" 3/8LP .050 on the Makita
12" .325 Nano .043 on the Husqvarna

I run .43 and 12" on my Makita tophandle, and yes, I detest the shutoff. Funny the rearhandle Makita shuts off way easier than the tophandle. Maybe because the rearhandle was 3 years older?

 

[Chainmale]

I run .43 and 12" on my Makita tophandle, and yes, I detest the shutoff. Funny the rearhandle Makita shuts off way easier than the tophandle. Maybe because the rearhandle was 3 years older?

Do you think it may be that it's easier to dawg in with the rear handle?
I definitely like the Makita, it came with a 14" which I think would be ridiculously overkill. I never tried it, I had a 10" echo bar laying around so chucked that on straight away

 

[sawfun]

Do you think it may be that it's easier to dawg in with the rear handle?
I definitely like the Makita, it came with a 14" which I think would be ridiculously overkill. I never tried it, I had a 10" echo bar laying around so chucked that on straight away

I don't dawg in much with the Makita tophandle, the rearhandle Makita shuts off too easy when using the dawgs. The 80v Greenworks is a different story, as it is very difficult to get it to stop when dogging in.

 

[el33t]

Probably couldn’t pronounce it!

Makita had a 12V, mini-chainsaw back in the early 90’s. Few people were interested, until STIHL came out with their GTA pruner.

Philbert

UC120? Its version was still available around 2010.
Using this saw was probably not very pleasant. It used a full-size 1/4 (25AP) chain. The maximum chain speed was 2.7 m/s, resulting in a vibration level of 8.9 m/s².
Stihl's GTA26 uses a 1/4 Picco chain (71) developed by them earlier (around 2010). The maximum chain speed is 8 m/s, resulting in a vibration level of 2.8-2.9 m/s².
Makita's net weight was 2.1 kg, Stihl's 1.2 kg. 24 Wh (Ni-Cd) vs. 28 Wh batteries. Makita's battery was also much heavier because it did not yet use Li-Ion chemistry: 220 g vs. 650 g (Ni-Cd).

 

[Philbert]

UC120? Its version was still available around 2010.
Using this saw was probably not very pleasant. It used a full-size 1/4 (25AP) chain. The maximum chain speed was 2.7 m/s, resulting in a vibration level of 8.9 m/s².
Stihl's GTA26 uses a 1/4 Picco chain (71) developed by them earlier (around 2010). The maximum chain speed is 8 m/s, resulting in a vibration level of 2.8-2.9 m/s².
Makita's net weight was 2.1 kg, Stihl's 1.2 kg. 24 Wh (Ni-Cd) vs. 28 Wh batteries. Makita's battery was also much heavier because it did not yet use Li-Ion chemistry: 220 g vs. 650 g (Ni-Cd).

Well, it was 30+ years ago!

Cordless drills weren’t much to brag about back then either!

Philbert

 

[lehman live edge slab]

That is one thing I like about Husqvarna electric tools, one battery format for all...unlike Stihl and others...

Long as the battery works, still a brand new husky battery saw at where my wife works that’s a shelf ornament because the battery died on that particular style for everything and they quit making the battery leaving all the people that needed that style hi and dry.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Stihl has the huge vest battery pack for running trimmers for long periods of time. All battery saws and stuff will have their place and I may buy a dewalt saw since that’s what I’ve chosen for my cordless tool selection and have build a large collection of 20v and 20/60 flex volt batteries.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I believe the 82v commercial Greenworks is supposed to run up to a 28" bar.

Which is kinda funny that Stihl wouldn’t have a bigger one being they are like 1/3 owner in green works and sell a version of the greenworks pro zero turn for municipal work in town.

 

[echo510s]

Which is kinda funny that Stihl wouldn’t have a bigger one being they are like 1/3 owner in green works and sell a version of the greenworks pro zero turn for municipal work in town.

Stihl was happy to have half the electric chainspeed of Husky for about five years until recently, so I always figured they were trying to position electric as a non-threat to their gas saws?

Do you think it may be that it's easier to dawg in with the rear handle?
I definitely like the Makita, it came with a 14" which I think would be ridiculously overkill. I never tried it, I had a 10" echo bar laying around so chucked that on straight away

I have a ten+ year old Makita in the trunk that runs better than the modern ones. The form factor is sure a lot more professional these days. Glad to hear that 10” bar has made it usable with their torque threshold.

I run 16” bars dogged in on Husky electric pole saws for doing hazard trees out of a bucket. Demoed Stihl too and they both chooch. It’d get expensive if I stalled in a cut.

 

[Wilhelm]

Performer, brushed motor, keeps pulling no matter what, Made in Japan.
Balances like a charm with a full battery!



E-scrap, Brushless motor, keeps shutting down after a couple cuts in under 10" OD wood, Made in United Kingdom



Yeah, that is one too many E-saws that I own.
I am done with that experiment!

 

[Sloughfoot]

Performer, brushed motor, keeps pulling no matter what, Made in Japan.
Balances like a charm with a full battery!
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E-scrap, Brushless motor, keeps shutting down after a couple cuts in under 10" OD wood, Made in United Kingdom
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Yeah, that is one too many E-saws that I own.
I am done with that experiment!

A double 18v that performs as well as that 36 would be tempting.

 

[Philbert]

A double 18v that performs as well as that 36 would be tempting.

Makita is going to 40V OPE now.



Philbert

 

[sawfun]

Makita is going to 40V OPE now.

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Philbert

I wonder how much better it really is or can you just sell another battery platform?

 

[Philbert]

I wonder how much better it really is or can you just sell another battery platform?

The reps said they tried to support the 18 x 2 power as long as they could, but many, larger construction type tools needed the larger batteries.

Especially, to compete with othee brands un that space.

Philbert

 

[Sloughfoot]

The reps said they tried to support the 18 x 2 power as long as they could, but many, larger construction type tools needed the larger batteries.

Especially, to compete with othee brands un that space.

Philbert

One 40V probably is an improvement. I'm only interested in one that runs on two 18V because I've got 4 18V chargers and 8 18V batteries for my 15 or so 18V and double 18V Makita battery tools.

 

[Philbert]

One 40V probably is an improvement. I'm only interested in one that runs on two 18V because I've got 4 18V chargers and 8 18V batteries for my dozen or so 18V and double 18V Makita battery tools.

That is why the developed the 18V x 2 solution: to support the 18V platy, and all those 18V batteries!

Philbert

 

[Sloughfoot]

That is why the developed the 18V x 2 solution: to support the 18V platy, and all those 18V batteries!

Philbert

Yeh, some version of the same Makita 18V has been around a while. Had some of mine for 20 years that still work with new batteries.
If it works don't change it.

 

[whitesnake]

I’m in the Milwaukee ecosystem and I hate having multiple chargers and batteries so that’s my route. I’ve had the rear handle and it’s handy if you just wanna slice up a fallen branch quick. It always starts and it’s quiet. Actually fairly impressive for what it is. I’ll probably try and grab one of the top handles if I find a good sale on one. That’s where I think cordless is truly shining right now.

 

[Wilhelm]

I wonder how much better it really is or can you just sell another battery platform?

Just another battery platform.

The reps said they tried to support the 18 x 2 power as long as they could, but many, larger construction type tools needed the larger batteries.

Especially, to compete with other brands in that space.

Philbert

And yet they abandoned the 36Volt battery platform leaving users of it high & dry!

I call BS on the reps statement.