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I been waiting a long time to make post like this. This started as a Cross MMWS 660 cylinder. I wanted to do a little more than just bolt it on. I sent the cylinder and had the base and squish cut. We decided that the exhaust had to be raised just a hair. I also decided to add bridge ports. So today I finally got it done. This saw has been waiting for over a year for this.
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Let us know how it runs. I currently have 2 running ported Cross Asian 660s that I have done port work to, and have run both of them a few times in recent weeks. They run pretty darn good. Both have Bridge Ports.

What timing #s are you using?
I sure will Mike! I plan on using this saw on my mill. I'll get final numbers after I get the cylinder down. It's been over a year since I had a degree wheel on it. Cant remember what they were.
 

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What's the dimples for bud,don't think I've seen that before

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Kind of like a golf ball. Theory is it catches air and creates an air bearing for better flow numbers. I've never seen anything actually flow tested to prove the theory though. I had a local race engine builder always sandblasted the ports when he would ports them. The rougher the finish the better he liked.

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Kind of like a golf ball. Theory is it catches air and creates an air bearing for better flow numbers. I've never seen anything actually flow tested to prove the theory though. I had a local race engine builder always sandblasted the ports when he would ports them. The rougher the finish the better he liked.

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Makes sense, kinda what I was thinking, thanks

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What's the dimples for bud,don't think I've seen that before

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A dimple is one way of making a turbulator there are many different types.
Forget the golf ball thing that's just one application of thousands using turbulaters.
Why turbulaters? Here's the basics of how it works take a car with dust or rain drops on the hood now do 90mile an hr down the road notice the dust or drops of rain don't move.
That's because of the boundary layer it is a layer of air stuck to the hood that does not move it is sticky and creates drag for the air passing over it.
Turbulaters make the boundary layer of air disappear also making the surface slippery to air flowing over it.
Take a cylinder like an intake manifold apart from making the walls slippery you also pick up volume there is no boundary layer of none moving air taking up space as before.
There is lots of reserch going into Turbulaters now days they are finding there way into all kinds of things making them more efficient like Aviation/wind turbines/cycling/air conditioner systems in big buildings moving lots of air/engines you name it anything that has air passing over or through it, it's big business with new patents getting submitted all the time the race is on as to what type of turbulaters are best for an application still lots of reserch to do but a few men are going to be rich when they work this all out.
From what reserch I have read they work with fast or slow moving air and in high or low pressure zones.
Turbulaters have been used in chainsaw rubber intakes for many years.
Some race shops offer cnc dimmpled heads now with dyno and flow sheets showing the gains.
But yes true you will always get the good old that will never work from guy's that never think out of the box or try anything new.
1st pic is of my 088 as you can see the turbulaters made into the rubber intake at the factory by Stihl the dimples are my doing with me good old Dremal lol
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I will add Turbulaters can be found in nature from fast diving birds and insects to humpback whales we human's are only copping what nature already knows lol

The lumps and bumps (turbulaters) on humpback whales ain't there just for good looks there for efficient drag reduction.
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Remember how they said wasn't even that many years ago turbulaters will never be used in car racing or f1 there is no need!
Funny how they are slowly creeping in lol
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A dimple is one way of making a turbulator there are many.
Forget the golf ball thing that's just one application of thousands using turbulaters.
Why turbulaters? Here's the basics of how it works take a car with dust or rain drops on the hood now do 90mile an hr down the road notice the dust or drops of rain don't move.
That's because of the boundary layer it is a layer of air stuck to the hood that does not move it is sticky and creates drag for the air passing over it.
Turbulaters make the boundary layer of air disappear also making the surface slippery to air flowing over it.
Take a cylinder like an intake manifold apart from making the walls slippery you also pick up volume there is no boundary layer of none moving air taking up space as before.
There is lots of reserch going into Turbulaters now days they are finding there way into all kinds of things making them more efficient like Aviation/wind turbines/cycling/air conditioner systems in big buildings moving lots of air/engines you name it anything that has air passing over or through it, it's big business with new patents getting submitted all the time.
From what reserch I have read they work with fast or slow moving air and in high or low pressure zones.
Turbulaters have been used in chainsaw rubber intakes for many years.
Some race shops offer cnc dimmpled heads now with dyno and flow sheets showing the gains.
But yes true you will always get the good old that will never work from guy's that never think out of the box or try anything new.
1st pic is of my 088 as you can see the turbulaters made into the rubber intake at the factory by Stihl the dimples are my doing with me good old Dremal lol
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Great explanation bud,thanks for sharing that

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A dimple is one way of making a turbulator there are many different types.
Forget the golf ball thing that's just one application of thousands using turbulaters.
Why turbulaters? Here's the basics of how it works take a car with dust or rain drops on the hood now do 90mile an hr down the road notice the dust or drops of rain don't move.
That's because of the boundary layer it is a layer of air stuck to the hood that does not move it is sticky and creates drag for the air passing over it.
Turbulaters make the boundary layer of air disappear also making the surface slippery to air flowing over it.
Take a cylinder like an intake manifold apart from making the walls slippery you also pick up volume there is no boundary layer of none moving air taking up space as before.
There is lots of reserch going into Turbulaters now days they are finding there way into all kinds of things making them more efficient like Aviation/wind turbines/cycling/air conditioner systems in big buildings moving lots of air/engines you name it anything that has air passing over or through it, it's big business with new patents getting submitted all the time the race is on as to what type of turbulaters are best for an application still lots of reserch to do but a few men are going to be rich when they work this all out.
From what reserch I have read they work with fast or slow moving air and in high or low pressure zones.
Turbulaters have been used in chainsaw rubber intakes for many years.
Some race shops offer cnc dimmpled heads now with dyno and flow sheets showing the gains.
But yes true you will always get the good old that will never work from guy's that never think out of the box or try anything new.
1st pic is of my 088 as you can see the turbulaters made into the rubber intake at the factory by Stihl the dimples are my doing with me good old Dremal lol
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Well said sir
 
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