Pferd 2 in 1 File System

[Cut4fun]

ETA, looks like they now have .030 depth guage in the description.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0046VN5Z6?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Good to know.

Using that link the rest are 025. Thanks.

 

[Dolkitafreak]

I used to use a Stihl 2n1 guide, it produced pretty decent cutting chains and was easy to use. Mine is 13/64 and always seemed to ride high on the tooth and not have much hook, but that makes for a durable and smooth chain. Rakers were always around .025" after using the guide. Haven't used the guide in a year and a half or so, I run all square for the most part. The guide worked well on Stihl and Carlton chain, I never tried it on Oregon, as I never used to run Oregon chain.

 

[Bjorn]

I nerver by a file guide like that. Because it is useless for square filing

 

[Dolkitafreak]

I nerver by a file guide like that. Because it is useless for square filing

Once someone runs a good square chain, they never wanna go back!

 

[RI Chevy]

Square is great! It's just maintaining it that's the issue with most of us...

 

[Dolkitafreak]

I’ve ruined a lot of chains practicing lol

 

[RI Chevy]

Same for me... I'm going to be a lifelong learner I think...

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I just bought the Stihl 3/8” picco 2 in 1 and think it does a pretty nice job. Chain didn’t have much hook but was sharp and cut well. I’ve always disliked hand touch ups on the little picco chains on the 200’s ect in the field so I wanted to try this. Pretty sure I’ll use this for all on field touch ups and the grinder in the shop for when I have a bunch or to make all angles perfect again.

 

[Philbert]

These were some STIHL illustrations that I was looking for: show why it does not 'work' on skip tooth chain, because it relies on the cutter in front for alignment / positioning.



Philbert

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Yep forgot to mention didn’t work on skip or semi skip, I only run full comp anyway other than long milling chains that I sharpen on a grinder. I personally have never liked skip chain but I suppose it serves its purpose on long bars for smaller saws that are maxed out. Like 036’s running 24-28” bars for a occasional big tree

 

[Championlurcher]

Tryed one bit fiddly to start with but kept trying till I notice that the guide on the front of tooth your fileing rubs the face of the tooth you just filed so it hit the back of the bin

 

[RI Chevy]

I've never noticed that. What chain were you filing?
Could you please provide a photo showing the issue you are having?

 

[Philbert]

Tryed one bit fiddly to start with but kept trying till I notice that the guide on the front of tooth your fileing rubs the face of the tooth you just filed so it hit the back of the bin

Sounds like your teeth were uneven lengths to start with?

Philbert

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I don’t think mine has an issue like that, is it possible that it’s marked wrong on the file guide? Since they are pitch specific for each one.

 

[RI Chevy]

Good point

 

[Championlurcher]

Sounds like your teeth were uneven lengths to start with?

Philbert

No all even

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Is it for sure right size? Miss marked wrong files in the holder from factory?

 

[Philbert]

No all even

There are running debates about whether all cutters in a loop need to be the same length - that is a separate discussion.

But the '2-in-1' files guides assume that they are.

Most sharpening methods have advantages and limitations. Find one that works for you.

Philbert

 

[wrooster]

As some others this thread have discussed, I think the trouble starts with the fact that some popular Oregon 3/8" pitch chains specify a 7/32" file diameter, however if you look up which Pferd model has a 7/32" file, that model is intended to be used on 0.404" pitch chain with a 30deg cutter angle.

This is exactly the case for my favored Oregon LGX chain -- it's 3/8" pitch and requires a 7/32" file on a 25deg cutter angle with a 0.025" guide depth. Box below as an example.

Stihl, for their roughly-equivalent in-house 3/8" pitch chain such as RSC, specifies a 13/64" file with a 30deg cutter angle.

So based on this, the Pferd 13/64" model is suited for Stihl 3/8" pitch chain, and not so much for Oregon 3/8" pitch chain.

And, as was noted in this thread, using the Pferd 7/32" model on non-Stihl 3/8" pitch chain can result in anomalous depth gauge height because the "guide link" is not in the right place (due to 3/8" vs 0.404" pitch) .

Oregon 72LGX box

STIHL:

PFERD sharpener:

 

[RI Chevy]

So. If you replace the 3/8 files with 13/64, does it work as it should on 3/8 chain?