New Stihl saws vs older Stihl saws

[stihl saws]

I nominate this thread for thread of the month.

Only if there are pics of fluids running down your pants. That sounded weird, didn't it?

 

[dall]

ok we didnt need that visual lol

 

[Nitehawk55]

Having worked at Stihl during the change from the 0 to the MS in around 2001 I liked both groups for some different reasons but if I had to choose I would still have to say I like the 0 group more plus the 028 and 038 were bullet proof saws .
The biggest reason is the pre EPA saws just seem to run stronger and you could set them up so they really run nice , also they just seemed easier to work on too .

The modern saws run really strong too , not knocking those but these have come along after my time with the company so I'm not as comfortable with them nor do I have the diagnostic tools .

I went thru the same damn thing as an auto mechanic back in the 80's when we were switching from carbs to fuel injection and ECM's !! , too many glitches which I'm sure will improve in time .

 

[stihl saws]

Having worked at Stihl during the change from the 0 to the MS in around 2001 I liked both groups for some different reasons but if I had to choose I would still have to say I like the 0 group more .
The biggest reason is the pre EPA saws just seem to run stronger and you could set them up so they really run nice , also they just seemed easier to work on too .

The modern saws run really strong too , not knocking those but these have come along after my time with the company so I'm not as comfortable with them nor do I have the diagnostic tools .

I went thru the same damn thing as an auto mechanic back in the 80's when we were switching from carbs to fuel injection and ECM's !! , too many glitches which I'm sure will improve in time .

Fuel injection is pretty standard for cars now and trouble free. It makes you wonder why something as simple as a autotune saw has problems. Keith's 550 issue is just amazing. They can't fix it, so they give you another saw. I'll keep my carb saws for now.

 

[Brush Ape]

Keith, I had to google "knave" and Im still unclear how your using this word in reference? Regardless, as Im assuming, 044-066 are a sweet spot of the lineup.

Older "0" series, 038, 041, 056, 090 just dang cool and get the job done.

Ported 661 just makes me giggle.

"Crest of a Knave," was the 1987 Grammy Award-winning classic album by a rock band called Jethro Tull which capably relegated the Metallica classic, "And Justice for All," to second place.....

 

[huskihl]

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She purdy, deeter

 

[huskihl]

I don't have enough run time on stihl spring saws to vote either for or against, other than Dave's 441. It's noticeably smoother than previous models. But I've got 10 or 12 "0" models and their ms twins in the garage that get it done every time. The slight difference in av doesn't bother me

 

[jmssaws]

I like all of them in one way or another,straight power I'll take a 064 or 066,for falling and work in like spring vibe saws.

You have to admit even if you don't love stihls that there's something special about an old flat top 064 or 066. Simple,effective and easy on the eyes

 

[MustangMike]

I can't choose! I actually prefer flippy caps to screw in ones, but i think some (not all) of the O series saws out ran their MS series counterparts.

That said, if I had to pick another saw for my lineup, it would be a very tough choice between an 064 or a 661. I think either one would put a big smile on my face!

 

[Iron.and.bark]

This is old school

08s s10 041 070 & 090 etc

Long live the dino-SAWS

I hate to say it though I did really like the ms250 I had for a garden trimming saw, till it got sold to buy more old dino-saws

 

[Keith Gandy]

If a 362c was on this list i would have voted.

What about a 562xp?

 

[angelo c]

What about a 562xp?

First it had "off idle" bogging issues then, it was too hot outside to restart it so it wasn't part of the poll....
Looks super cool on the shelf though

 

[Stihl working Hard]

I like flippy caps on my 661 my 660 doesn't have flippy caps

 

[Keith Gandy]

First it had "off idle" bogging issues then, Iit was too hot outside to restart it so it wasn't part of the poll....
Looks super cool on the shelf though

0 issues with my new one so far

 

[Mastermind]

Only if there are pics of fluids running down your pants. That sounded weird, didn't it?

He fluids, or she fluids? The difference is real.

Fuel injection is pretty standard for cars now and trouble free. It makes you wonder why something as simple as a autotune saw has problems. Keith's 550 issue is just amazing. They can't fix it, so they give you another saw. I'll keep my carb saws for now.

Do you remember electronic carbs in the 80s?

They were crap. Then came EFI.

That's where we are with saws, in the e-carb era. EFI is coming.

 

[Keith Gandy]

He fluids, or she fluids? The difference is real.



Do you remember electronic carbs in the 80s?

They were crap. Then came EFI.

That's where we are with saws, in the e-carb era. EFI is coming.

Im still not sold on the electronics. It seems either u get a lemon or u dont

 

[Redfin]

"Crest of a Knave," was the 1987 Grammy Award-winning classic album by a rock band called Jethro Tull which capably relegated the Metallica classic, "And Justice for All," to second place.....

Soooo I just farked the entire reference.

 

[Nitehawk55]

Fuel injection is pretty standard for cars now and trouble free. It makes you wonder why something as simple as a autotune saw has problems. Keith's 550 issue is just amazing. They can't fix it, so they give you another saw. I'll keep my carb saws for now.

It took them a while to get it right but as Mastermind mentioned we are in the electronic carb stage and those had me tearing my hair out back in the day .
Diagnostics were the big issue in those days and I think we're seeing that again with issues that can't seem to be fixed , I'm sure the Tech's at the dealerships are frustrated with it as are the companies building saws .
It's going to take time to sort it out and get it right , the EPA is forcing the issue now with OPE as they did with cars , unfortunately we are the ones that have to live with it .

 

[TJ the Chainsaw Mechanic]

IMOP, nothing beats a 0 series. Course....a ported 460 is pretty mean.

 

[MustangMike]

I sold my 85 Mustang GT cause I had issues with the electronic carb that I could not resolve.