New falling Saw. Stihl MS 661 or 660?

[jmssaws]

460 was 14.95 lbs and a 576 was 15.4 lbs on my scale before I killed it. 660 was 17 and a 390 was 16.8. Full of fluids a 390 weighs more since it holds more.

My scale shot craps also

 

[mdavlee]

My scale shot craps also

I dropped something on it. It literally exploded.

 

[MustangMike]

Jason, that is why all my 046-460s are ported, it transforms them.

 

[Ryan Browne]

Hi,

i'm not sure whats the deal with this wrap handle. Okay, it looks cool and you feel like a cool US West Coast Faller ... but i will buy a normal one.

If you buy your 461 and 576 with heatet handle, the weight is the same. But, your 044/046 sounds cool. Less weight is always good.

October 2017 the new 462 will be realesed. There was 2 prototyp saws at the forestshools. 73ccm at 6,2kg and 6PS.

Lg

Too bad you're not closer, I'd happily swap with you. Shipping would probably kill the deal, though...

 

[hseII]

Too bad you're not closer, I'd happily swap with you. Shipping would probably kill the deal, though...

Absolutely.

 

[huskihl]

My scale shot craps also

I dropped something on it. It literally exploded.

I just assumed it was before Mike killed the 576 lol

 

[sfg.Foley]

Absolutely.

Okay, seriously ... why you like wrap handel?



Lg

 

[mdavlee]

I just assumed it was before Mike killed the 576 lol

Not quite. I don't know where the 2nd 576 ended up.

 

[jmssaws]

Jason, that is why all my 046-460s are ported, it transforms them.

Yes I know.
I kinda do this for a living. Lol

 

[sawmikaze]

Ported saws are transformers

 

[jmssaws]

Ported saws are transformers

Sounds kinda spooky.
Are they the good or bad transformers?

 

[CR888]

I too would love the OEM's to once again produce 80cc class pro saws. They seam to skip between 70-75cc straight to 90cc. 80-85cc saws can be fairly nimble & weight competitive yet high revving and produce good power. Sadly the market today is small for these saws and money would be faster made redesigning a MS170 or something that get sold by the gozillion. My 681(81cc) Solo is lighter than many 70ish cc saws yet has more power and speed than 90cc saws.

 

[Cigmaker]

Someone told me they were a fad and scary plus they are loud. Now they transform!! I'd sure like one that would split and stack the wood after I cut it.

 

[Deets066]

Ported saws are transformers

If that's true then my port jobs are the short goofy ones from the movie

 

[sawmikaze]

If that's true then my port jobs are the short goofy ones from the movie

Ported saws run faster than stock saws.

Just so you know..beavis.

 

[Deets066]

Ported saws run faster than stock saws.

Just so you know..beavis.

Not all of em

 

[MustangMike]

Yes I know.
I kinda do this for a living. Lol

My point was that it makes a bigger difference on them than on some other saws. Same with the 660s, most are not real exciting stock. Conversely, you can often wake up a 044/440 quite a bit w/o porting.

 

[sawmikaze]

My point was that it makes a bigger difference on them than on some other saws. Same with the 660s, most are not real exciting stock. Conversely, you can often wake up a 044/440 quite a bit w/o porting.

I ran a 660 that just had the base cut with a timing bump and a gutted muffler that was miles ahead of a stock one..a 044/440 is no different than any other saw that leaves meat on the bone...it all applies.

 

[jmssaws]

My point was that it makes a bigger difference on them than on some other saws. Same with the 660s, most are not real exciting stock. Conversely, you can often wake up a 044/440 quite a bit w/o porting.

A 460 does gain nicely.

The absolute biggest gaining saw I've ported is a 6100 dolmar.
Real stinker stock and incredibly strong ported.
Very easy to port also.

 

[MustangMike]

I ran a 660 that just had the base cut with a timing bump and a gutted muffler that was miles ahead of a stock one..a 044/440 is no different than any other saw that leaves meat on the bone...it all applies.

When you delete the base gasket on a 044/440 you usually get close to 20/1000 squish w/o any machine work. You generally can't do that on a 460. So deleting the base gasket gives you more compression, a longer effective power stroke (the distance from TDC to the exhaust port) and increases the intake timing.

This makes it a much easier saw to extract performance from for those of us w/o a machine shop, just sayin.

There may be other similar saws, but there are also a lot of them you can't just delete the gasket and end up with good squish.