MS201T C

[Jimmy in NC]

So a box was in the mailbox today from @redlight066. In it was this handy bit that fits nicely in the carb.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

I popped some pictures of the wiring and how it tucks in the carb box for any of you that are curious or for future reference. The carburetor disconnect slides out as a whole and does NOT have to be disconnected in the carburetor box. Everything has a place and tucks out of the way nicely.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

So this little piece came also. It appears that it is to ensure there is no flywheel / high tension lead interaction. I do not see how to make it fit in these cases though. It may be due to the heat shrink repair, but I do not see how to make it fit by the coil bosses either. Either way it will not fit currently. I also noticed there is a slight rub still on the coil lead. Right now that is as good as it gets with out major coil surgery or replacement. I was quoted 139.99 for the coil so for now we run it and ensure everything else is okay. IF it fails again, I will address it then. It may clearance a bit of heat shrink and be good...time will tell.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

Filled the fuel tank and a half dozen pulls or so and it fired right up. I'll run it a bit tomorrow if time allows. Then I will most likely give it a little muffler mod if the owner is okay with it.

I wish I had a better solution for the spark plug lead. This saw is so tight everything has to be just so. I may be able to splice it where it goes behind the coil...maybe.

Again thanks to everyone who has helped and given ideas and insight.

 

[redlight066]

Yeah they didn’t waste any space when they designed this one. Lol.

 

[Mastermind]

wish I had a better solution for the spark plug lead. This saw is so tight everything has to be just so. I may be able to splice it where it goes behind the coil...maybe.

Can you make the slot the lead is in a little deeper?

 

[Nutball]

I didn't think the flywheel wore down to bare wire, so I was thinking just cut off the heat shrink and use the plastic piece.

 

[huskyboy]

The lead is non replaceable? That is stupid.

 

[Mastermind]

The lead is non replaceable? That is stupid.

There are a lot of coils from every manufacturer like that. And yes.....it's pretty stupid.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

Can you make the slot the lead is in a little deeper?

Maybe... looks like I am going back into this one... ran for about 5 minutes. Could not get it to do a reset with out stalling. Would start right back up. Went to start a cut and it died like I hit the switch... not a sound since then.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

I didn't think the flywheel wore down to bare wire, so I was thinking just cut off the heat shrink and use the plastic piece.

If you look at the pictures it doesn't even fit with the coil removed... the cases are physically different I think by the coil mounting boss.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

Maybe I should see how far I can toss it?

 

[huskyboy]

Maybe... looks like I am going back into this one... ran for about 5 minutes. Could not get it to do a reset with out stalling. Would start right back up. Went to start a cut and it died like I hit the switch... not a sound since then.

Try to replace the carb or coil. Wasted my time with a 441 mtronic carb rebuilding it and replacing the solenoid multiple times. New carb, empty wallet and fixed lol. Oh and fit one of the updated orange fuel filters if it doesn’t have one. It’s funny though I have to say, I haven’t had a single issue with the non mtronic 441 here. Works great.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

Try to replace the carb or coil. Wasted my time with a 441 mtronic carb rebuilding it and replacing the solenoid multiple times. New carb, empty wallet and fixed lol. Oh and fit one of the updated orange fuel filters if it doesn’t have one. It’s funny though I have to say, I haven’t had a single issue with the non mtronic 441 here. Works great.

I have to look at this 362 that came in yesterday. If it has a white solenoid on it, from what I read I can swap the solenoid.

I doubt it is fuel though...even a prime and it doesn't pop. It died way too quick to be a fuel starvation issue.

Also I should point out it did die a few times after some piss revs. Those times one pull and back to zipping away.


I am running out of patience for this saw. Doesn't help having some tough projects to close out going on at work right now and a 60 mile ride to and from that site everyday. Really limits my shop time.

 

[Jimmy in NC]

362 has a black solenoid...back to head scratching

 

[ucm931]

Tannerite..........

 

[Jimmy in NC]

Tannerite..........

Not far from it.

I have slept on this...walked away from it last night.

Different wiring harness - same issue.

What do we need for run? Suck - squeeze - bang - blow / Fuel - compression - ignition.

We have the squeeze - compression has come up nicely now that the flooding cleared the crankcase.

Fuel - if I shoot fuel through the carb we have fuel.

Ignition - we don't have it.

The saw was acting like it kept getting a shut down signal yesterday. I have a couple of options here to figure it out.

1. Disconnect the black grounding terminal in the handle. This would eliminate a way to electrically kill the saw and no possibility of the terminals shorting in the handle.
2. Attempt a repair on the high tension lead. Not excited but it cannot get more broken.
3. Order a coil. I honestly feel this will be the answer. When I have checked spark it has been randomly intermittent and never a "hot and fat" spark. I checked this 362CM and it produces a fat blue spark vs the dim spark on this coil with the same plug.

While this coil was supposedly replaced.. I highly doubt it. There was baked on schmoo on the legs that you would not get in the short time this has come from the dealer. Also I did not see the signs of someone recently having had the whole saw apart which is required to change a coil out.

Off to the work house to ponder....

 

[Mastermind]

Not far from it.

I have slept on this...walked away from it last night.

Different wiring harness - same issue.

What do we need for run? Suck - squeeze - bang - blow / Fuel - compression - ignition.

We have the squeeze - compression has come up nicely now that the flooding cleared the crankcase.

Fuel - if I shoot fuel through the carb we have fuel.

Ignition - we don't have it.

The saw was acting like it kept getting a shut down signal yesterday. I have a couple of options here to figure it out.

1. Disconnect the black grounding terminal in the handle. This would eliminate a way to electrically kill the saw and no possibility of the terminals shorting in the handle.
2. Attempt a repair on the high tension lead. Not excited but it cannot get more broken.
3. Order a coil. I honestly feel this will be the answer. When I have checked spark it has been randomly intermittent and never a "hot and fat" spark. I checked this 362CM and it produces a fat blue spark vs the dim spark on this coil with the same plug.

While this coil was supposedly replaced.. I highly doubt it. There was baked on schmoo on the legs that you would not get in the short time this has come from the dealer. Also I did not see the signs of someone recently having had the whole saw apart which is required to change a coil out.

Off to the work house to ponder....

Replace the coil.

 

[Junk Meister]

I reread this thread and like the pictures ... But the DRAMA !! Big bummer this saw wants to laze around on your work bench and not go to work.

 

[Mastermind]

But the DRAMA !!

Drama started being a requirement in American culture when My Space started. Now......log in to Facebook for your daily dose.