ms 462

[Stihl working Hard]

It’s light and powerful. Lol. It feels like it’s going to be tough to beat for the guys packing a saw and heading to the woods. It handles a 28 well.

Well that’s good to know Cole

 

[mdavlee]

I bet it uses 6202 size bearings like the 460 and down.

 

[dustinwilt68]

I wonder if they ever figured out what went wrong with the ones in Europe that reportedly lasted 6 months before the bottom ends left go?

 

[RI Chevy]

You serious Dustin?
Does bigger or larger sized bearings guarantee better longevity and stronger bottom end?

 

[Armbru84]

You serious Dustin?
Does bigger or larger sized bearings guarantee better longevity and stronger bottom end?

As an engineer...bigger doesn’t guarantee better. It’s the whole package and how things work together in a given system.

 

[RI Chevy]

That's kinda what I was thinking Cole. I hear comparisons of saws of similar cc size but one hss the next size bearings, thus insinuating that the saw is stronger.
Just curious.

 

[Czed]

Anybody weigh one?
Ready to cut
Just curious some of the guy's
Are waiting on them here.

 

[Armbru84]

No bar but full of fluids.

 

[dustinwilt68]

Just wondering if there was a design flaw that caused the failures, or if it came from improper care? Time will tell I guess.

 

[RI Chevy]

I would imagine they did R&D with people who were saw professionals over there. So I would hope the users knew what they were doing as far as how to properly use and maintain a saw.

 

[MustangMike]

I had heard it was a "power loss", not a failure, but have never heard any specific details, so it is all still kinda hearsay.

For example, ANY saw will fail if it is straight gassed!

 

[RI Chevy]

Yes it will!!!

 

[hseII]

It is not as simple as velocity. Bullet construction, rate of twist and bullet profile and diameter (gyroscopic stability) all come into play. Flat base round nose bullets are far more stable at the same velocity and rate of twist. The faster the bullet and the faster the twist, the harder the bullet must be. Too much velocity and twist will result in a "blue streak", a bullet that blows up in route.

The longer the bullet (sharp point and boat tail) the more twist is needed to stabilize it.

A heavier bullet will not penetrate any deeper than a lighter bullet, the energy is the same, unless the lighter bullet is too soft. Bullet construction is a far more important factor.

Many of the factory 130 gr bullets are (IMO) too soft for Big Game hunting, they are designed for long, open field shots. If you do ballistic testing on them, you will find they not only open extremely fast, but the mushroom is not symmetrical, which causes them to plane dramatically when they contact brush.

I stopped using them when I shot 3 shots at a deer in heavy brush. I did not hit the deer, but went back the next day and was able to see the trees the bullets hit. The deflection was extreme. That is part of the reason I got into ballistic testing and settled on 30 cal Barnes bullets.

They will not pencil hole your deer, but they will penetrate approximately 50% further than soft point bullets, and the mushroom is always symmetrical.

Shot placement & bullet construction is key.

Caliber is irrelevant.

The .270 Winchester is literally a necked down 30-06.

From .308 to .277.
A difference of 0.031”, 0.0155” to the side, & you believe that 0.031” makes any difference?

Shoot Accubonds or other quality Bullets rather than el cheapos & you’ll see for yourself.


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[RI Chevy]

Ut Oh! Derailment in progress AGAIN.

 

[ferris]

I will try the saw with the Nylon mesh filter and make an comparsion between 404 and 3/8 on an 20“ hardnose bar.
I hope i will make that before december, because i am now in holiday

 

[RI Chevy]

Thank you sir.

 

[MustangMike]

Shot placement & bullet construction is key.

Caliber is irrelevant.

The .270 Winchester is literally a necked down 30-06.

From .308 to .277.
A difference of 0.031”, 0.0155” to the side, & you believe that 0.031” makes any difference?

Shoot Accubonds or other quality Bullets rather than el cheapos & you’ll see for yourself.


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You seem to lack understanding of gyroscopic stability, and on a percentage basis, the diameter difference between 270 and 30 is huge, yet they both usually have 1 in 10 twist.

Also, if you think accubonds are better performing than a Barnes X bullet, you likely have not done any ballistic testing with them (I have). They are good bullets, but they did not shoot well for me (accuracy), they hold up well, but their mushroom is smaller diameter than average, and they will not penetrate like a Barnes X bullet. Just the facts!

You may have missed that 264 (6.5mm) which are much closer in diameter to a 270 generally have a faster rate of twist.

 

[Dub11]

Shot placement & bullet construction is key.

Caliber is irrelevant.

The .270 Winchester is literally a necked down 30-06.

From .308 to .277.
A difference of 0.031”, 0.0155” to the side, & you believe that 0.031” makes any difference?

Shoot Accubonds or other quality Bullets rather than el cheapos & you’ll see for yourself.


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You seem to lack understanding of gyroscopic stability, and on a percentage basis, the diameter difference between 270 and 30 is huge, yet they both usually have 1 in 10 twist.

Also, if you think accubonds are better performing than a Barnes X bullet, you likely have not done any ballistic testing with them (I have). They are good bullets, but they did not shoot well for me (accuracy), they hold up well, but their mushroom is smaller diameter than average, and they will not penetrate like a Barnes X bullet. Just the facts!

You may have missed that 264 (6.5mm) which are much closer in diameter to a 270 generally have a faster rate of twist.

But guys which one will out cut a 462?

 

[Roadfxr]

But guys which one will it out cut a 462?

Don’t you mean which one shoots better while cutting with a 462??

 

[PA Dan]

But guys which one will it out cut a 462?

More testing will have to be done to determine that...