ECHO Echo, Echo, Echo

[heimannm]

Done. I used the bar that came on the saw (24" Oregon banana tip) but polished it up a bit, you hardly notice the odd nose this way.











They do have an interesting sound, particularly at idle.

Mark

 

[Mastermind]

Smooth running saws too.

 

[FergusonTO35]

There are an awful lot of surviving examples of the Echo twin considering it was only made for a few years, like the Sachs-Dolmar KMS-4.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Had a chainsaw fella look over an echo cs 900 evl on EBAY and had inquired me about it. Figured I'd post my observations, to the greater Echo chainsaw group. Rather than advice to an individual, it'd be best to share my opinion of the saw.

Just read forum member woodslasher's shtty chainsaw ebay deal, to get an idea how far some sellers will go to play stupid about saw damage.

To those interested jn this recent 900 evl, I'd pass on the thing. The seller wants $950 for a damaged saw and isn't disclosing his half-assed over spray job hiding the snapped off chain brake, nor the missing tank vent. The broken top cover has been flushed up to appear as good condition. It's a "running" parts saw at best, and yall will never get yer money back.

Ive circled in blue the damage and/or missing parts. Nice orange paint though, wow good color match!

 

[FergusonTO35]

$950.00 is steep for any 40+ year old used power tool. At that price I want new old stock.

 

[heimannm]

I picked this saw up several years ago, not sure what happened but it had very low hours and even lower compression...piston was toast.

I bought a new piston, cylinder, seals, manifold, etc. from Traverse Creek (AKA The Duke) and finally got is all put back together.



The original cylinder was not bad, but since I'd already purchased the new one I used it when putting this one back together.





I already have a 2511T worked over by MWEBA so this one will be on the "For Sale" rack for now anyway.

Mark

 

[sawfun]

I picked this saw up several years ago, not sure what happened but it had very low hours and even lower compression...piston was toast.

I bought a new piston, cylinder, seals, manifold, etc. from Traverse Creek (AKA The Duke) and finally got is all put back together.

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The original cylinder was not bad, but since I'd already purchased the new one I used it when putting this one back together.

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I already have a 2511T worked over by MWEBA so this one will be on the "For Sale" rack for now anyway.

Mark

That should go quick.

 

[EFSM]

I picked this saw up several years ago, not sure what happened but it had very low hours and even lower compression...piston was toast.

I bought a new piston, cylinder, seals, manifold, etc. from Traverse Creek (AKA The Duke) and finally got is all put back together.

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The original cylinder was not bad, but since I'd already purchased the new one I used it when putting this one back together.

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I already have a 2511T worked over by MWEBA so this one will be on the "For Sale" rack for now anyway.

Mark

You have an unnervingly orderly way of taking a saw apart and making it look new again. Awesome work!

 

[ZERO]

I already have a 2511T worked over by MWEBA so this one will be on the "For Sale" rack for now anyway.

Mark

Those 2511s when done correctly, mine by our good friend Mark @Crocky28, o baby, nothing but joy to run.

 

[FergusonTO35]

I picked this saw up several years ago, not sure what happened but it had very low hours and even lower compression...piston was toast.

I bought a new piston, cylinder, seals, manifold, etc. from Traverse Creek (AKA The Duke) and finally got is all put back together.

View attachment 454228

The original cylinder was not bad, but since I'd already purchased the new one I used it when putting this one back together.

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I already have a 2511T worked over by MWEBA so this one will be on the "For Sale" rack for now anyway.

Mark

How much you asking for her?

 

[heimannm]

PM sent Ferguson.

 

[rburg]

PM sent Ferguson.

What model is the echo you rebuilt?

 

[heimannm]

CS271-T

 

[mainer_in_ak]

An echo cs 680/670 filter fits the cs 8000. The HDA 45 carb is larger, so will have to open up the filter base where it attaches to the carb. The filter cover sets about 1 inch higher. Shouldn't be too hard to fabricate an extension.

 

[EFSM]

An echo cs 680/670 filter fits the cs 8000. The HDA 45 carb is larger, so will have to open up the filter base where it attaches to the carb. The filter cover sets about 1 inch higher. Shouldn't be too hard to fabricate an extension.

Great info. The antiquated 8000 filter setup has been an Achille's heel of the saws.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Great info. The antiquated 8000 filter setup has been an Achille's heel of the saws.

Yep lotta wood dust down in the carb tray. I'd like to mill with this brute, and flapper filters are garbage.

After porting and the larger hda 45 carb, I also upgraded those pathetic felling dogs.

This should fix my last issue with the saw.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

$120, got me another echo 6700. Starts, runs great. Chain brake works but missing brake handle. This one has the round automotive filter. So last of the 6700's: 1999-2001.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Compression was a little low. Tore the saw down and found scoring on the piston/rings. Only one tiny spot of aluminum transfer in the cylinder.

It looks like a ridge of carbon at the bottom of the exauhst port had broke free and damaged the piston/rings. Definitely not an air leak. Prior owner put a brand new carb on the saw, that didn't fix the problem.

Anyhow, piston cleaned up nicely, as did the cylinder. New piston rings and a few other small things. Will be about $220 total into the saw. Of course a smidgen of port work, muffler opened up and the timing advanced

 

[FergusonTO35]

Dang, you find some good deals up there!

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Dang, you find some good deals up there!

That's the going rate on these 6700's and cs 8000's are usually $300-$400

Lotta guys are into tinkering with the clone saws. My "cheap saw" fix has always been these older echos with quality made in japan parts availability from over a dozen online vendors.