Cobbling

[Wilhelm]

Thanks and I'm with on being tired of the throwaway culture too.

My work & pup long walk boot(s) gave up today.
Looks to me like a "programmed failure point"!
I have no spares yet.

 

[Wilhelm]

P.S.:
That heel is HOLLOW!

 

[hacskaroly]

P.S.:
That heel is HOLLOW!

Air bounce for a smooth ride! I had a pair of shoe one time that had an air bladder in the sole, something punctured it and whenever I got it wet, it would whistle when I stepped up as it was sucking air back in.

 

[jacob j.]

P.S.:
That heel is HOLLOW!

That's where you're supposed to put your weed when you're traveling internationally.

 

[hacskaroly]

What model of Danners?

Again, not sure what model they are, but here is a couple of pics:

 

[Wilhelm]

Air bounce for a smooth ride! I had a pair of shoe one time that had an air bladder in the sole, something punctured it and whenever I got it wet, it would whistle when I stepped up as it was sucking air back in.

Yeah, these were squeaking when walking, stepping down, for months now.

 

[Dub11]

My work & pup long walk boot(s) gave up today.
Looks to me like a "programmed failure point"!
I have no spares yet.

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That's a cup sole. Break out the super glue for one last go.

Again, not sure what model they are, but here is a couple of pics:
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That's just like the Acadia with stitch down construction and a foam midsole and the Vibram 148 outer sole. If you have a belt sander that's an easy fix.

Looks like those could be a Danner light 2 or explorer.
https://www.danner.com/men/all-footwear/explorer-6-brown.html

Danner Light II 6" Dark Brown

Rich pebble-grain leather and 1000 Denier nylon — stitched into Vibram® soles like the roots of a sequoia are stitched in the soil. The Danner Light II is a hiker's best buddy and a bootmaker's masterpiece.

www.danner.com

 

[hacskaroly]

That's just like the Acadia with stitch down construction and a foam midsole and the Vibram 148 outer sole. If you have a belt sander that's an easy fix.

Looks like those could be a Danner light 2 or explorer.
https://www.danner.com/men/all-footwear/explorer-6-brown.html

Yup, that looks like it! No belt sander handy, so just basically sand off the old sole and glue on a new one (the one you linked above)?

 

[WKEND LUMBERJAK]

I thought this was a a saw forum.

 

[jakethesnake]

I thought this was a a saw forum.

This is the men’s forum. We like stuff. All manner of stuff.

Love this thread Wayne. Subbed. I just bought a set of red wings. You for hire when I wear the sole out?

 

[jakethesnake]

 

[JimBear]

I thought this was a a saw forum.

There aren’t any trees in North Dakota, he needed something to do in his spare time.

Probably not many trees at his new residence in Minnesnowda either…

 

[Dub11]

Yup, that looks like it! No belt sander handy, so just basically sand off the old sole and glue on a new one (the one you linked above)?

I trimmed the lugs flat as I could first before sanding.

I used this kit to sand with.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.northerntool.com/products/klutch-20-pc-drum-sanding-kit-43064%3Fsrsltid%3DAfmBOoolmEBjmssn5kUAFLfRQeTW1toKl8BUkmc_t3lrGJrY_q1GYy2t&ved=2ahUKEwiemJ7Olv2OAxVTjokEHRRsJlsQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3qpeiTfoxSJWrPdRD7xfBx

And it's not the prettiest sanding but it's held up.

I thought this was a a saw forum.

Can't saw bare foot lol.

This is the men’s forum. We like stuff. All manner of stuff.

Love this thread Wayne. Subbed. I just bought a set of red wings. You for hire when I wear the sole out?

Possibly.

I don't want to be the JS saws of cobblers with my belt sander lol.

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Them some 1907s?

 

[Dub11]

Also when I say belt sander I mean a 3x21 vevor mounted to a plank and screwed to a wall. And with the drum sander I use an old Hitachi corded drill bolted to a plank using the extra handle screw hole and the plank is C clamped to an old chair. I've been trying to do this at the lowest possible cost.

 

[legdelimber]

Did I miss a mention of better glues for this stuff?
I may have a couple pairs of shoes that would need a glue job.
I had some brand new shoes (never worn) that I stuck in the hanging shoe pouch on the closet door.
Life shifted a bit and I sorta forgot about them being there.
Came back a while later (couple of years or so), only to find that the uppers had peeled away from the soles.
About half way from the heels forward.

Not absolutely certain that I didn't toss them out. But this thread makes me interested in trying to fix them if I still have them.

 

[Mad Professor]

Just found this thread it's a keeper, thanks!

I've got numerous old boots with the Norwegian welt soles: old USA made Herman Survivor logger boots that have held up but the leather is getting tired, a few bulletproof Italian made Vasque Montana hiking/mountaineering boots, a pair of Limmer hiking boots, and work boots I'd have to check the names on. All leather inside and out with Vibram soles.

Some of the oldest boots the soles are holding up but on the inside, the leather heel counters are worn and tearing, hard on my socks. I try to avoid boots with synthetic liners/insides as they don't hold up as well the the heels inside wear out faster.

Exception is real cold weather boots for below 0 oF. usually for hunting/ice fishing, then I have felt bootie lined Pac boots/Sorels.

@Dub11 will this thread morph into lining and other repairs too? Thanks I've learned a lot already.

So not to hijack the thread the other thing with leather boots is waterproofing/conditioner. I've used Snow Seal, but the stuff Limmer sells conditions/preserves the leather better and still lets the leather breathe. I alternate between the two. I talked with an old timer at a deer checking station and he swears by homemade boot dressing using rendered deer or bear fat, cut with a natural oil , mink if available. Maybe we need a new thread on leather boot dressing....

 

[jakethesnake]

I trimmed the lugs flat as I could first before sanding.

I used this kit to sand with.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.northerntool.com/products/klutch-20-pc-drum-sanding-kit-43064%3Fsrsltid%3DAfmBOoolmEBjmssn5kUAFLfRQeTW1toKl8BUkmc_t3lrGJrY_q1GYy2t&ved=2ahUKEwiemJ7Olv2OAxVTjokEHRRsJlsQFnoECBcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3qpeiTfoxSJWrPdRD7xfBx

And it's not the prettiest sanding but it's held up.
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Can't saw bare foot lol.


Possibly.

I don't want to be the JS saws of cobblers with my belt sander lol.

Them some 1907s?

1907 yeah. I had 2 soles put on the last pair and the leather was still good but just got worn wonky to the point it was time for a new pair. My favorite 3 season boots. Sum *b-wordes cold in the winter.

Have you ever put a set of speed hooks in? I bought some but sorta scared to pull the eyelets out of a good set of boots. However I hate not having hooks

Also you are correct. I too like shoes when I saw

 

[Dub11]

Did I miss a mention of better glues for this stuff?
I may have a couple pairs of shoes that would need a glue job.
I had some brand new shoes (never worn) that I stuck in the hanging shoe pouch on the closet door.
Life shifted a bit and I sorta forgot about them being there.
Came back a while later (couple of years or so), only to find that the uppers had peeled away from the soles.
About half way from the heels forward.

Not absolutely certain that I didn't toss them out. But this thread makes me interested in trying to fix them if I still have them.

I haven't mentioned glue yet because there is some variables with how they react with your substrates and how you prep them. I have had some fails.

Like I tried adding a cheapo replacement sole from Amazon to a pair of Sketchers contact cement didn't work worth a crap and neither did shoe goo. Another project had some vibram soles I got as a close out item going to foam midsole and they only wanted to stay stuck with super glue. Now there are primers out there you apply first and I will be trying them on this project.

Contact cement is what the pros use but you want to have the correct substrates and prep works done. It seems they are happy with leather, rubber and eva foam. Not happy with some polyurethane and TPU and leather that have had a corrective pigment added. Renia is regarded as the best and I've used it and like it. I'm currently using Barge and so far it's been good along with Masters brand, but I felt the Masters dried out in the can sooner than I felt it should of. Like my can of Renia is older and still usable.

It also sounds like you could of possibly ran into hydrolysis. It's more common with polyurethane "PU" soles or it could of been not enough glue from the get go.

 

[Dub11]

1907 yeah. I had 2 soles put on the last pair and the leather was still good but just got worn wonky to the point it was time for a new pair. My favorite 3 season boots. Sum *b-wordes cold in the winter.

Have you ever put a set of speed hooks in? I bought some but sorta scared to pull the eyelets out of a good set of boots. However I hate not having hooks

Also you are correct. I too like shoes when I saw

Some RW heritage line boots have had problems with the gimming coming loose and that's probably why the started wearing funny. And I haven't messed with speed hooks but check this out around the 15:30 mark Steve installs the speed hooks through the eyelets using them a washer of sorts. Of course he's using a fancy press thing but I think one good make a die out of a peice of hard wood or steel and hammer them on. I'd probably find some thin leather to make a kiltie so they don't tear up the tongue.

 

[Dub11]

Just found this thread it's a keeper, thanks!

I've got numerous old boots with the Norwegian welt soles: old USA made Herman Survivor logger boots that have held up but the leather is getting tired, a few bulletproof Italian made Vasque Montana hiking/mountaineering boots, a pair of Limmer hiking boots, and work boots I'd have to check the names on. All leather inside and out with Vibram soles.

Some of the oldest boots the soles are holding up but on the inside, the leather heel counters are worn and tearing, hard on my socks. I try to avoid boots with synthetic liners/insides as they don't hold up as well the the heels inside wear out faster.

Exception is real cold weather boots for below 0 oF. usually for hunting/ice fishing, then I have felt bootie lined Pac boots/Sorels.

@Dub11 will this thread morph into lining and other repairs too? Thanks I've learned a lot already.

So not to hijack the thread the other thing with leather boots is waterproofing/conditioner. I've used Snow Seal, but the stuff Limmer sells conditions/preserves the leather better and still lets the leather breathe. I alternate between the two. I talked with an old timer at a deer checking station and he swears by homemade boot dressing using rendered deer or bear fat, cut with a natural oil , mink if available. Maybe we need a new thread on leather boot dressing....

Hijack away! You have one hell of a collection there! And I need to try that Limmers stuff. I've been using Snoseal and it has kept my feet dry when I have to power wash parts at work. And we should start a boot oil thread lol.

I've read that any animal based oils can go rancid but it makes me wonder if that happens on sporadically worn boots more often?

And yes I have intentions of expanding into lining replacements. I have looked into these https://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai...tYOVm_6OAxW2l-4BHXoZHmQQwg8oAHoECAQQDQ&adurl=

But a part of me would rather save up and find an old Singer. Of course my local cobbler shop would charge $40 to replace heel counters, that is to good of a deal to pass.