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  1. Lightning Performance

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    My spidy senses tell me I needs more POWA in the medium class or middle weights.
    So... the question is what would you prefer to use hanging off of you for chunking down oak and maple in the USofA?

    Pretty simple concept. Let's just consider that most of the time it will wear a twenty inch bar. No need to talk chain... just the power head is my concern. We all know what chain we like or soon will.
    This was the cause of this thread... all his fault.
    A Guy is hunting an 034 jug and this was the reply. Long considered one for up top. Only drawback is my 036 is about the same weight and could pull a 24 or 28 skip if needed. The 034 will sip fuel... one would suspect.
    You think it would be any good for chunking down or basket/bucket work?

    Going to dedicate one saw to this task only. Choices are...

    026
    260
    036
    360
    361

    Or buy and port a 346, 034 or 241. Ragged edge 241... saw like Scott builds :) or a Doctored up 260 type.
    261 v1 is too heavy and floppy imo... with a 20ES treeeights, clocks ticking... plus it must pull hard in oaks and maples.
    That kind of leaves out my 361 or 362 V1 saws based on ptw and my tendency to now like sloppy AV in them. Never did before... chunking I still like them firm ;-)
    Used my near stock muffler modded 260 yesterday. It's just sorely lacking even with chisel skip 72 Oregon chain.
    Thoughts?
    Considerations?
    Dolmar, Makita, others?

    Everything is fair game including saws I may have never seen or hearded of, yet :)
     
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  2. cuinrearview

    cuinrearview Unskilled Hammer Donkey

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    I posted a vid of it in the thread. Snappiest un-ported "0" saw I've ran. Buzzy AV but if you don't like springs..
     
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    Franks
    I love springs and then some. No good imo for chunking dead trees. Fast and precise is the goal. AV is second here in my book. They do run real good with the muffler opened up. Did you happen to run off a few tanks or twenty?
     
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    Still on the first. BGD, timing, muffler. Popup piston.
     
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    Of what you listed I'd take the 036 for power but am not sure what it weighs . The 260 weighs almost the same as the MS261CM but has less power . What do you mean by floppy in reference to the 261 ? I have 2 of the C-M's and love them in hardwood, one with a 20" and the other wears an 18" . Not noticed them being floppy in any way .

    PS: Never worked a bucket and I'm too old to climb .
     
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    I've never had much problem chunking with a 261 personally...but if you don't like it I get it. The only reason I trade my 14" climbing bar for my 18" 261 for chunking is because it's faster. Full bar in Oak on my 355t just takes a bit too long for my liking. Especially when I have a tool better suited to that job in the 261.

    Lately my favorite chunking saw has been the 462. Make sure the chain is right and she'll bury 28" in oak without problem in my experience. A 24/25 might be better in tree though if you have one. Mine wears a 28 all the time so that's what I use.

    I've never had a need for more than 28" while chunking, but if I needed 32 or 36 while in the tree I would have to grab a 661.
     
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    I'd sure hate to be up a tree with a 661 with any bar but over 30" would be out of the question for me .
     
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    Have @Red97 port you up an echo 501p and have done with it. It will check all the boxes you outlined. Has an old school feel. I use mine stock with muffler mod and an 18" b&c. It does 80% of my spar work.
     
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    Someone say 501p???

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    Every time I read this thread title, I think the OP is talking about throwing or smashing his saw in frustration!
     
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    I'm a big fan of 550xp with 18" bar as an all around saw, but PA hardwoods all day with a 20" may be asking much w/o a mod. I've been running a 440 with 20" climbing oaks but it is heavy on my saddle. Love that saw! 60cc class prob for straight bucket work, 361 is sweet power to weight for all day cutting.
     
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    More over my favorite saw is still a hot 361 for the ground. 362 is second now. 362C is third... it's still stock untouched but very handy.

    This 462 keeps popping up in my mind but the 501 could really be the answer. have a 510 or 520 and two 530 Echos. Not the same saw inside one would imagine.

    My clean 036 right now still gets the nod to mod for chunking.

    I will try my hybrid out in a tree with a stock or near stock 50mm jug. The ported 52 or 54 would be too much and just suck up fuel quickly.

    Decided to just leave the 260 alone this year. I do have all the trimmings for it to be a great saw.

    Most of the 261's just feel like slop to me up a tree. They fall sideways with a 20" 3/8" 24" is a no go anyway. 462v2 might be better.

    Nothing else left to consider but a 241 18" lp ported, Makita or Dolmar.

    Have considered tossing a few saws off the tree while coming down to get a bigger saw like a 660 with a 28". I hate that mfer up a tree with just 24... don't get me started on the 28 or 32.

    It's looking like a jacked 036 with pump work to pull a 32 if needed. Nothing else will do but a 462v2 and I don't have one here, yet. Still buying big saws right now.
     
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    No 550 *B-S.... and it won't pull a 24 or a 28.
     
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    Kenny if your set on 24" I'd take a hard look at a 462 for in tree work. I got to use one in a tree and remember thinking this is great. A echo 501 would oil a 24" bar but power and balance would be no bueno.
     
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    I'm just a grondy butt I'd take a 346 FTW up that mfer...
     
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    i used my 357xp as my daily climbing saw with a 20" and full comp square chain if i needed more than that i had an 044 or a 372xpw and a small wedge to keep it from getting pinched chunking down big trees. I dont climb very much any more mostly because my harness almost wont go around me... lol
     
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    I run:
    Ported 2511t with 14” 1/4”
    Ported 201t with 16” 3/8lp”
    Ported 346 with 20” .325”.
    Ported 2172 xpw with 24” 3/8”
    Ported 385 with 28” Tsumi light 3/8”
    Ported 395 Big Bore with 36” or 42” 3/8”

    Haven’t had the 880 or 3120 in the tree yet, but I’ve wanted suspenders for the 395.

    60cc is heavy and weak. I’d rather have heavy and powerful or light and slower. The 346 and 2172 do 90% of my blocking and crane work.

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    #1 pic for 20” wood.
     
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    Welp the 462 is going to be a smart move but only if I need a 28- 32 is it going up.
    The 036 is getting an 18" 325 063 mufkin mod dual port.

    Oh btw that chain came today :)
    That saw can also run the 24 when needed in 3/8

    Still have the stock 260 and that might get a 16 325 on it or nothing and shelve it.
    Anything that needs the 66 now better be one big fughin tree. 32, 36 in 3/8 and 42 404 roller of chit gets real. I'll drag that up wif a block and rope :) Nothing bigger is ever going up a tree with me.

    The 200Ts are still my favorites but going to get a 201TCM an change a few things then port it. That will be using 14-18" lp bars.
    I like the idea of the 2511T in 12" 325nk for trimming or brush from tops when its just me. Good trim saw for up top or ground imo. Ran a few for a minute.

    That's my new plan and port the 435. It lasted this long so why not. Handy little saw with a 16" 325nk on it.

    Bought new solid strap suspenders for more weight. Still like the springy jobs for summer Tshirt work.
     
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    462 and 18” 201 have my interest. I did a 60” Tulip with a 462 wearing 36” skip. Very light and pulled fine even stock.
     
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    what about 562xp 20,24,28?
     
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