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Listen to what Randy and Tree Monkey Say. These are smart guys that have shared with us the quality of his work.

Jason is a loser. He must think we are all stupid selling us his crap.
How is that 064 doin now Edwad? I know Brad made it a very nice 064. That saw was a screamer when I ran it:)
 

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I'm not understanding how any inference to allowing both side of the story to be told here is a staunch defense of Jason's claims.

Deets stating what Jason told him isn't a defense of Jason. He's just stating what he was told.

There's only one way that the truth will ever come out here, letting both sides speak and allowing people to pass their own judgement on what they hear.

There is only one way here for Jason to possibly clear his name. Start a thread himself on the AS explaining himself to all, asking anyone without any skin in the game to refrain from posting, and holding his composure and not threatening people that say what he feels is incorrect.

There's a reason he hasn't done that. Where there is smoke there is certainly fire. I've heard enough to make my decision at this point.

Could anyone with a brain in their head believe that Jason, a guy who never has any extra funds around, built himself a nice powder coated saw for his own use? Then he sent pictures of the build to a guy, and overpriced it intentionally so that someone would not buy it? He got banned from his Stihl dealership cause he's competition?

Sorry guys, but my *B-S.... alarm has gone crazy at this point. Has anyone here never been wrong about anything? I've yet to hear Jason admit wrongdoing, even one solitary time.

But this lynch mob against him will not ever end until his side of the story is told by him, plain and simple. There will just be speculation, accusations and anger that will continue in perpetuity. Another 75 pages that gets us nowhere and angers us against each other at times.

There's only one person that can put it to rest. That's Jason, telling the truth, and maintaining composure.

This is what needs to happen, though I doubt it ever will.
Damn doc, your much better with words than I am
 

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It's back together. Brad rebuilt it for me no charge.
Mighty nice of him. Good fella. That saw ran really well and was only a tad slower in 24" Maple than my MMWS 390xp. It lacked alil lean on torque compared to my 390xp but coulda been in the tuning or setup as we were both running a .404 setup. John sold u a good saw but obviously there was something ready to go in it since Brad inspected it and it still gave up the ghost. Wish we knew exactly what went in it but probably no way to pinpoint it now but glad to see folks reached out to help get the saw back goin for u. Good on Brad:)
 

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I'm going to have a bunch of saws for sale here pretty soon.

I need to find a new hobby. This "passing notes after school" is totally stupid.

I look forward to the video of the fistfight at the next TN GTG, and if there aren't any punches, or slaps in some cases, then a bunch of you fellas are total pussies.

Jason did wrong by some some folks. If he chooses to continue to deny it, so be it. He has to live with the consequences. It's his fault. The burden of proof is on him.

What really irks(Google it) me, is the constant taking up for him. This whole fugging saga will just keep going on, and on, and on. If people want to continue being his "friend", have at it. However, know that you are enabling his continued pathological behavior.

Lots of spite has been thrown around in here, and not all of it can be forgotten. How are some of you going to behave when your online chainsaw forum arch nemesis is across the cant stand from you, or standing by you eating a pulled pork sandwich?

I consider many of you to be friends, some very good friends, and it really bothers me that it all boils down to arguing, bickering, and inciting such anger over how bad someone screwed someone else over on a chainsaw deal.

@Mastermind and I will be having a conversation about what has transpired, and the best way we can see to remedy the situation, or remove some of the flies from the ointment.

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Mighty nice of him. Good fella. That saw ran really well and was only a tad slower in 24" Maple than my MMWS 390xp. It lacked alil lean on torque compared to my 390xp but coulda been in the tuning or setup as we were both running a .404 setup. John sold u a good saw but obviously there was something ready to go in it since Brad inspected it and it still gave up the ghost. Wish we knew exactly what went in it but probably no way to pinpoint it now but glad to see folks reached out to help get the saw back goin for u. Good on Brad:)
And another good guy is John who Offered me money back on the saw after it grenaded. John and Brad are great to do business with.
 

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- I post video of jms 661 vs snellerized 661. so what. only intention was to show that hey all you people that listened to jms tell you brad's saw would be walked all over...and you believed him with zero proof. Well guess what that is not the case.

- from there jms lost his mental chit and threatened my life, scott's, bradly and his family, and a few other people from what I hear now. there is no excuse for that. PERIOD. so from that point on yeah...yeah I kinda had skin in the game. But hey death threats are no big deal. I'm sorry my bad.

- "Does this mean Julian can now tar & feather anyone out in public like he has done in Private to multiple people?" Oh, that's really really good. I see what you did there! you soo soo tricky with words. :rambo1:

- called you gay - screen shot of this please.

- blessing of the builders LMAO!!!!!!!!!! Next GTG I'll be sure to call all the builders and ask permission...no for their "BLESSING" to run each of their saws they did.

- axe to grind with Jason....well no chit he threatened to kill me, scott, bradly and family, and a few others. I guess you condone that, since sure as hell haven't condemned it.

- as for the rest of your made up crap. I'm not going to respond because you'll just make something else up stated as fact. btw - it's called a Pre-Supposition.



EXACTLY.



EXACTLY AGAIN!

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Aside from all the arguing that had ensued, @Mastermind do you need any more parts for the build? I can't send parts as I'm too far away but I'll happily send some funds to help, whether it be for parts or to do something special with it, or even to give the buyer something back out of it! Hell after all this the guy deserves a break
 

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Guess Ill be another *a-hole here this morning along with Deeter. What I am going to say will be of no shock to a few of you on here because Ive had this conversation with you. I "had" been in a group note with Deeter and Stratton and two othe fellas for a long time before any issues with Jason arose.

After some of the accusations were thrown around I started digging and contacting some of our members regarding what they knew. Alot of it was second hand knowledge but there had to truth in there somewhere.

I did remain in the note up until recently. I have told Stratton I do not believe him. I also told him I do believe he has lied to me. I will not call you a friend if you cannot be honest with me.

Im sure that not every piece of information posted either for or against Jason is 100% accurate but at this point Ive heard enough.

Im posting this in defence of Deeter. He was asked what he thought about this saw. He wrote what WE have been told. Not as fact, just as what has be relayed to us.
 

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This whole idea started when I asked Jason what he'd charge for a 066 build. He sends me a pic of a new painted 064 case with crank, new seals and bearings. He said the build off this case would be his saw and if I wanted it, it would cost me. He said $1500 so I fronted the money PayPal right then and he started the build. Since I originally wanted a 066 he'd do a hybrid with this perfect timed unicorn cylinder he had. He ported that cylinder and sends me pics. When I asked about pistons, he says whenever he ports a cylinder he only uses oem. Same with my 661 he had at the time. When asked about rest of parts, he said the saw will have original 064 equipment. I didn't order parts nor did I keep up with what he ordered, all I went on was his word. I have the some pics of the progression and finished product. I will share if needed but I will not be hashing out anything else with Jason. I have quit communicating with him for a reason.
 

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Guess Ill be another *a-hole here this morning along with Deeter. What I am going to say will be of no shock to a few of you on here because Ive had this conversation with you. I "had" been in a group note with Deeter and Stratton and two othe fellas for a long time before any issues with Jason arose.

After some of the accusations were thrown around I started digging and contacting some of our members regarding what they knew. Alot of it was second hand knowledge but there had to truth in there somewhere.

I did remain in the note up until recently. I have told Stratton I do not believe him. I also told him I do believe he has lied to me. I will not call you a friend if you cannot be honest with me.

Im sure that not every piece of information posted either for or against Jason is 100% accurate but at this point Ive heard enough.

Im posting this in defence of Deeter. He was asked what he thought about this saw. He wrote what WE have been told. Not as fact, just as what has be relayed to us.

Deets is a friend to me too John. I'm not mad at him. I stopped posting last night out of fustration. I wrote out a couple different posts and deleted them because I couldn't find any way to say what I was feeling without possibly hurting people I care about.
 

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@Manofstihl066. Is this the saw?

I don't think so...
We don't yet know boss.


What exactly would u like to know deets? (Deep Breath) What I think about a 064 hybrid that I paid $1500.00 for that started as a mint fresh painted case with new bearings and seals with original 064 equipment with the exception of a 54 mm cylinder that malfunctioned after only an hour run time then sent to Randy and opened up to find a big fking abortion?! I don't think to highly of it.

What happened to the cylinder?

Nothing happened to it. The cylinder was in good shape and the port work looked really good.

During the second tank of fuel the chain started coasting, hauling ass at idle. Figured it might have been a clutch issue. I ran it a little more then oiler quit working, I checked the adjustment and there was none. Oiler was bad. I did bust the tank out of frustration. I was then skeptical about the integrity of the build so I sent it to Randy to check it out while installing a new oem tank I ordered.
So some damage to this Saw came by your hand.

It was one of those where u put on the breaks right before it leaves ur hand kinda thing. If I had given it a full on rob gronkowski spike there would be nothing left of it.
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I meant the saw having original 064 equipment with exception of an 066 top end. I didn't mean the cylinder was the cause of concern.

There are 2 different stories within these post from the same person.

I Have Never Taken Up for Jason, or Condoned any of his wrong doing.

I simply try to hold people to the same measure with which I will be measured, & would hope others would only use facts & not speculation, or disdain for an individual, when discussing such a serious matter.

I agree with Doc that Jason & Bradley,( not BS, but MOS), should be the 2 people dealing with this.

Randy's Integrity doesn't need a Parrot: he's always been square with everything I've ever heard about him, save his pointy legs.

I Consider myself a Friend of Randy: I don't understand why he was mixed up in this to begin with.

I just don't understand how someone has an issue with the saw, & doesn't try to send it back to the builder first.

Especially when that someone bust part of the saw themselves.
 
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