Chainsaw grinder questions, tips, tricks, and pics!!!!

[Philbert]

Some of the clone grinders used to have a ball-on-a-stick style handle.

After I posted that, I searched and could not find any images of these older style handles (!).

Everyone seems to be using, or copying, the plastic handle shown above.

Finally gound this one (in India), just for illustration:



Philbert

 

[Clarkbug]

I guess that’s the style I use. Never bothered me. Some of the clone grinders used to have a ball-on-a-stick style handle.

Some versions have a hole in the base to run to a foot pedal!

We have a surplus store near me where I shop for weird handles, etc,, but anything with that thread will work.

Or, you can put a thread insert into a wooden handle, wrap the current one with tape / foam / etc., if you want a different shape.



Philbert

After I posted that, I searched and could not find any images of these older style handles (!).

Everyone seems to be using, or copying, the plastic handle shown above.

Finally gound this one (in India), just for illustration:

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Philbert

Part of me thinks the ball on a stick handle might be the way to go. Maybe its just the height of my workbench and me standing while grinding, and I need to get a stool or find a new place to mount the grinder. Or Ill just have to try and find something that seems like its going to bolt up and feel better. Appreciate the input/help!

 

[Philbert]

Way back, on ‘the other site’, I started a thread on ‘511A Tips and Techniques’.

In there, I mentioned using a boot lace and cord lock to limit upward travel of the grinding wheel to the minimum required.

This reduced hand and arm movement significantly.

511A Grinder - Improvements / Tweaks?

I read some of the threads on tweaking the Northern Tool grinders, and thought that we ought to have one for the venerable Oregon 511A (and related Italian grinders). This model does not have the same quality issues as the knock-offs, and I know that it has been replaced by the 511AX, but there...

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Philbert

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Part of me thinks the ball on a stick handle might be the way to go. Maybe its just the height of my workbench and me standing while grinding, and I need to get a stool or find a new place to mount the grinder. Or Ill just have to try and find something that seems like its going to bolt up and feel better. Appreciate the input/help!

On the subject of mounting, make sure it is far away from stuff you don't want covered in grit. When I sweep up around my grinder, I make a pile of swarf and sure enough, a magnet picks some up. The rest is stone dressing dust. I know it is being tracked around on the bottom of my shoes too. Just sayin' dot dot dot

 

[Philbert]

^^^ That’s part of the reason I like to grind ouside.

Somewhere, I have a photo from Tree Monkey’s Father’s shop, with a large, welding magnet next to the grinder.

It’s totally covered with metal whiskers!

EDIT: Here it is!



Philbert

 

[Duane(Pa)]

Simington swing arm gullet tricks. Seems like it works very well.

 

[Philbert]

Interesting. Not sure if a standard, Oregon style, round grinder would not work as well.

Philbert

 

[Jusgunn3]

I have a bunch of loops to sharpen, I might try on a beat up chain.

Interesting. Not sure if a standard, Oregon style, round grinder would not work as well.

Philbert

 

[2020]

Testing 123

 

[larasea]

Let me start by acknowledging that this is an 10 year old thread and I have not read it all. I have seen at times members may be a little confused on different angles with different chain brands and or different grinders.

I own a Stihl USG grinder and a Oregon 620-120. If you look at the USG grinding chart for Stihl chains you will see recommended angles such as 40-15-30 for Stihl chain. Head tilt is always for the most part 40 degrees. So the 40 is head tilt and you need to know the difference in grinders. USG uses 0 degrees when vertical. Oregon uses 90 degrees for vertical. Head tilt recommendation is 40 for Stihl chains on a USG grinder. To translate this to Oregon grinder for Stihl chain is 50 head tilt. The head tilt is the same: 90 -40 = 50 degree head tilt for the Oregon grinder. 50 head tilt on Oregon is equivalent to 40 on the Stihl USG. So as a further example, If you use 60 head tilt on a Oregon grinder, you in essence have a 30 head tilt.

Grinding a Stihl chain at recommendation of 40-15-30 on a Oregon grinder would translate to Oregon 50 - 15 - 30. Virtually the same grind result.

Remember the Stihl USG chart is for the use on the USG grinder. Oregon chain recommendations are true to the Oregon grinders. I ran around in circles for several years figuring this out. I do not use Oregon chain so took me a while to figure this out owning two different grinders in two different states.

Hope this is of help to Y'all.

 

[Junk Meister]

Let me start by acknowledging that this is an 10 year old thread and I have not read it all. I have seen at times members may be a little confused on different angles with different chain brands and or different grinders.

I own a Stihl USG grinder and a Oregon 620-120. If you look at the USG grinding chart for Stihl chains you will see recommended angles such as 40-15-30 for Stihl chain. Head tilt is always for the most part 40 degrees. So the 40 is head tilt and you need to know the difference in grinders. USG uses 0 degrees when vertical. Oregon uses 90 degrees for vertical. Head tilt recommendation is 40 for Stihl chains on a USG grinder. To translate this to Oregon grinder for Stihl chain is 50 head tilt. The head tilt is the same: 90 -40 = 50 degree head tilt for the Oregon grinder. 50 head tilt on Oregon is equivalent to 40 on the Stihl USG. So as a further example, If you use 60 head tilt on a Oregon grinder, you in essence have a 30 head tilt.

Grinding a Stihl chain at recommendation of 40-15-30 on a Oregon grinder would translate to Oregon 50 - 15 - 30. Virtually the same grind result.

Remember the Stihl USG chart is for the use on the USG grinder. Oregon chain recommendations are true to the Oregon grinders. I ran around in circles for several years figuring this out. I do not use Oregon chain so took me a while to figure this out owning two different grinders in two different states.

Hope this is of help to Y'all.

Some things you said seemed redundant and yet YOUR way of explaining came through crystal clear THANKS for the numbers.

 

[larasea]

Some things you said seemed redundant and yet YOUR way of explaining came through crystal clear THANKS for the numbers.

Crystal Clear was the GOAL. LOL.

I don't post often, but when I do, I hope it is useful information.

 

[Clarkbug]

Way back, on ‘the other site’, I started a thread on ‘511A Tips and Techniques’.

In there, I mentioned using a boot lace and cord lock to limit upward travel of the grinding wheel to the minimum required.

This reduced hand and arm movement significantly.

511A Grinder - Improvements / Tweaks?

I read some of the threads on tweaking the Northern Tool grinders, and thought that we ought to have one for the venerable Oregon 511A (and related Italian grinders). This model does not have the same quality issues as the knock-offs, and I know that it has been replaced by the 511AX, but there...

arboristsite.com

Philbert

Good stuff Philbert! Thank you!