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Jimmy in NC

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The 390 and 395 are different saws for much different purposes. A 394/5 is a long bar only saw, where the 385/390 is more of a medium bar with power to run larger saw. Just their free speed tune is 1000RPM different, a ported 395 likes around 13-13.5 where a 390 will turn fat and happy much higher. So in small wood where you are running above peak HP RPM the 390 will beat a 395 just because of it's potential for higher RPM. Run a large sprocket or large bar and you'll have completely different results.

It seems to me that focus on speed cutting can be misleading. Are you really going to buck a 20" log into firewood chunks with a 395 when you could do the same thing 1 second slower per cut with a 60cc saw and still be able to lift your beer at the end of the day? So I say, compare them how they are intended to be used. For a 395 it better be 30" of wood or more for me or I'm using something else.
Exactly! Same as racing a half ton pickup vs a dually... put 10,000 lbs behind them and see who wins then.


Best one I've seen was igpoe on AS. Guy was talking big and said that Dean's two man saw was slow. Boasted he could out run him through any thing. Dean put the money up and picked the log. Hard to cut through a 5' stem to make a cookie with a 24/25" bar. That Mall never slowed down... feet of bar to spare.
 

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There is such a thing as saw fit run one daily like that's ya job to do so well your muscles build ya get stronger :eek: no bull.. Anyone who calls a 066/661 a big saw is dreaming! lol or doesn't use one much that's fine but is better to have a more realistic view some people actually run saws for a living the blanket statements like that saw's too heavy to run more than an hr will wear you down! says who? the couch potato?!? lol ...I bet none of us could drive an F1 race car but guess what many men do and its there job no bull hey lol...
Now a loud saw is a loud saw there is no getting used to that well until your lost half of your hearing that is, but that takes time so not really a quick fix going deaf to block out an overly loud exhaust note haha..
And how times change was only few years ago one would get hunted off AS for running .404 ya know its too slow blah blah but now seems its the new blue oil tis good stuff! lol. I've run .404 for over 20 years and can honestly say as some have released its good stuff on a 90+cc saw if you get used to the ins and outs of running .404 good luck going back to 3/8 its crap as far durability goes, it doesn't take too long to realize there is no real advantage of going back to 3/8 more an eye opener to 3/8 chain shortcomings...Ah and I'm not talking race saw stuff talking getting chit done 6hrs on a saw day in day out done, most the guys that knock .404 have never run it lol..
As far as .404 is hard on crank bearings I've not seen that myself in stock saws with well past their use by date hr's on them..now a overstressed ported saw I guess it would add stress to crank bearings that's a give in .404 takes some pulling in hardwoods and can be ruff on man and machine but personally I've not seen any problems with stock 90cc saws over the years...
And no not intentions to upset anyone just saying and is only my 2c on things that don't really matter :thumbsup:..

Hmm think I posted this in the right thread donno :roto2nuse:
 
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There is such a thing as saw fit run one daily like that's ya job to do so well your muscles build ya get stronger :eek: no bull.. Anyone who calls a 066/661 a big saw is dreaming! lol or doesn't use one much that's fine but is better to have a more realistic view some people actually run saws for a living the blanket statements like that saw's too heavy to run more than an hr will wear you down! says who? the couch potato?!? lol ...I bet none of us could drive an F1 race car but guess what many men do and its there job no bull hey lol...
Now a loud saw is a loud saw there is no getting used to that well until your lost half of your hearing that is, but that takes time so not really a quick fix going deaf to block out an overly loud exhaust note haha..
And how times change was only few years ago one would get hunted off AS for running .404 ya know its too slow blah blah but now seems its the new blue oil tis good stuff! lol. I've run .404 for over 20 years and can honestly say as some have released its good stuff on a 90+cc saw if you get used to the ins and outs of running .404 good luck going back to 3/8 its crap as far durability goes, it doesn't take too long to realize there is no real advantage of going back to 3/8 more an eye opener to 3/8 chain shortcomings...Ah and I'm not talking race saw stuff talking getting chit done 6hrs on a saw day in day out done, most the guys that knock .404 have never run it lol..
As far as .404 is hard on crank bearings I've not seen that myself in stock saws with well past their use by date hr's on them..now a overstressed ported saw I guess it would add stress to crank bearings that's a give in .404 takes some pulling in hardwoods and can be ruff on man and machine but personally I've not seen any problems with stock 90cc saws over the years...
And no not intentions to upset anyone just saying and is only my 2c on things that don't really matter :thumbsup:..

Hmm think I posted this in the right thread donno :roto2nuse:

Your sure correct about driving an F1 car or a LeMans car is beyond most of our bodies to tolerate. Look at the acceleration telemetry as far as acceleration and deceleration. Ithe would be like driving a high 6 or low 7 second car, but for at least an hour and a half.
 

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Thanks for the answer on the 395 vs 660. Next question, where would a 2095 Jonsered fit into the equation? Anyone have experience with one? With a 36" bar on the 395, 3/8" or .404, and why?
 

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Thanks for the answer on the 395 vs 660. Next question, where would a 2095 Jonsered fit into the equation? Anyone have experience with one? With a 36" bar on the 395, 3/8" or .404, and why?
Mark we need to just get together...I'll put 37" of 3/8 on one 394 and 42" .404 on the other...let you see what it's about.

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Interesting saws. Excelled in milling applications. Great torque and run a long bar wonderful. Not a high revving saw.
 

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I was curious because the tree service guy is not too impressed with his 660's. I have a 395 and a 2095 here. I was wondering if he would be happier with one or both of my big saws. I have a 32" Total Super bar in 3/8" that I don't want to turn loose of, so I will likely get a 36" for each of them when I turn them loose. I guess I should get them in .404. I'll keep the 32" for the 288 if I ever need it
 

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I was wondering how the 2095 with a 36" bar compare to the 660 with a 36" bar and the same chain. I don't think he will be using more than a 36" if he can help it...
 
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