Aspen Alkylate Fuel

[mdavlee]

@Deets066

What oil do you recommend? That you could mix with the oil already mixed in

I have and use orange stihl oil.

Klotz original pretty much mixes with everything. I’d be leery of some regular OPE oils that aren’t made for funny fuels.

 

[Deets066]

Klotz original pretty much mixes with everything. I’d be leery of some regular OPE oils that aren’t made for funny fuels.

This.... klotz

 

[Lightning Performance]

@Deets066

What oil do you recommend? That you could mix with the oil already mixed in

I have and use orange stihl oil.

Consider changing oil. I never liked it myself. The silver has fuel stabilizer

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Consider changing oil. I never liked it myself. The silver has fuel stabilizer

So does the orange bottle but if plugs the hell out of exhaust screens and while I know guys that run the silver with no issues you can buy much better oil for the same or less money

 

[Lightning Performance]

So does the orange bottle but if plugs the hell out of exhaust screens and while I know guys that run the silver with no issues you can buy much better oil for the same or less money

For sure

 

[jmester]

https://klotzlube.com/shop/ols/products/xn-original-techniplate-g2a

Is this it?

I have ran stihl orange bottle oil for about 18 years. Only burnt up one saw. From running it to lean. That was back in 03-04. That was me knowing nothing about a saw. Beside running it. That is when the saw repair journey began.

 

[RI Chevy]

Yes

 

[lehman live edge slab]

https://klotzlube.com/shop/ols/products/xn-original-techniplate-g2a

Is this it?

I have ran stihl orange bottle oil for about 18 years. Only burnt up one saw. From running it to lean. That was back in 03-04. That was me knowing nothing about a saw. Beside running it. That is when the saw repair journey began.

I know the Stihl orange bottle works the local rental place I used to work for ran it in all the 2 cycle equipment they had. Never had an engine die because of lube issues but it did gum up exhaust screens

 

[whitesnake]

How about 100LL...cheap compared to canned fuel and last forever. I know there will be people that say you'll drop dead from lead poisoning blah blah.

 

[jmester]

Found some for a little under $20 a quart with shipping.

Does that seem right to you guys?
Or is there a place that is better priced

I would buy a case. But i just bought a 5 gallon bucket of orange stihl oil. It will take me about a year to go threw it.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Found some for a little under $20 a quart with shipping.

Does that seem right to you guys?
Or is there a place that is better priced

I would buy a case. But i just bought a 5 gallon bucket of orange stihl oil. It will take me about a year to go threw it.

Like I said nothing really wrong with the orange bottle I’ve ran tons of it over the years just remember to clean the exhaust screens once and awhile is all.

 

[SawNut]

I don't like Ultra HP, so when I run Motomix, I use the "Motomix4" and put my own oil in. I primarily use it for "after run" fuel, when storing my equipment for extended periods. Mystik (Citgo) semi syn Air Cooled is my go to oil, is JASO FD rated, very clean burning, low smell, and mixes easily. I just bought some for $2.50/qt recently. I gave up on high dollar 2 stroke oil years ago. Never lost an engine on JASO rated oil.

There is definitely a formulation difference between Motomix and the other commercially available "alternative fuels". They smell different and the MSDS show a significant difference. The ones in the big box stores smell like lacquer thinner (contain xylene and toluene). Motomix and Aspen appear to be very similar to each other and do not contain these ingredients. Motomix4 is produced by Haltermann Carless, a German company with presence in the US. Wouldn't surprise me if Aspen is also produced by the same company, as they don't appear to be an actual petroleum company.

 

[mdavlee]

Found some for a little under $20 a quart with shipping.

Does that seem right to you guys?
Or is there a place that is better priced

I would buy a case. But i just bought a 5 gallon bucket of orange stihl oil. It will take me about a year to go threw it.

I buy gallons off eBay.

 

[RI Chevy]

Klotz smells much betterer though...

 

[jmester]

@mdavlee

Thanks Mike I will check on it.

I know this is not the right thread for this but, hope all is going well for you.

 

[jmester]

Well trying to figure out how much oil would need to be added to make a true 40:1.

Jug of Aspen is 1.3 gallons
1.3 gallons = 166.4 oz
1 gallon = 128 oz
1 gallon needs 3.2 oz to make 40:1
1 gallon need 2.56oz to make 50:1
3.2 ÷ 128 = .025oz per oz of gas @ 40:1
2.56÷128= .020oz per oz of gas @ 50:1

.025x166.4=4.160oz of oil to make 1.3G 40:
.020x166.4=3.328oz of oil to make 1.3G 50:

4.160-3.328= .832 oz of oil to make what I have into 40:1 mix.

Does this sound right?

 

[mdavlee]

@mdavlee

Thanks Mike I will check on it.

I know this is not the right thread for this but, hope all is going well for you.

I’m doing good. Busy as always but I sold my house and looking for farmland now

 

[Ford3000]

It`s good stuff. I have used both of it already and I`ll do so for the future, too. If you work in the forest in Germany, no matter as a professional or a private firewood cutter, you have to use alkylate fuel like Aspen and bio degradeable bar oil.

Wouldn't like to be a 500i owner in the German Forest.

 

[Ford3000]

I would think it's premixed already if I had to guess. It says 2% on the jug which would be 50:1.

You can but it mixed or not, just make sure you don't put the unmixed one onto your two stroke by mistake, some buy the unmixed for four stroke use, but you can certainly mix it to your own spec. They are in different colored containers, but I still keep a close eye out.

 

[RI Chevy]

Well trying to figure out how much oil would need to be added to make a true 40:1.

Jug of Aspen is 1.3 gallons
1.3 gallons = 166.4 oz
1 gallon = 128 oz
1 gallon needs 3.2 oz to make 40:1
1 gallon need 2.56oz to make 50:1
3.2 ÷ 128 = .025oz per oz of gas @ 40:1
2.56÷128= .020oz per oz of gas @ 50:1

.025x166.4=4.160oz of oil to make 1.3G 40:
.020x166.4=3.328oz of oil to make 1.3G 50:

4.160-3.328= .832 oz of oil to make what I have into 40:1 mix.

Does this sound right?

Just go and add a glub into it. If you started at 50:1, you'll be better than that. That's really all your trying to get to.
Just be sure to retune the saw.

If you start with 1.3 gallons of fuel.
50:1 ratio needs 3.33 ounces of oil.
40:1 ratio needs 4.16 ounces of oil.
4.16 - 3.33 = .83 ounces to make up difference to 40:1.
OR 1 glub from the bottle. Lol