Any Chinese chainsaw and chinese parts discussion

[ammoaddict]

Are these saws better than Neotec? Last week, I was working on a Neotec NS872 that had absolutely terrible fit and finish.

I don't know. Mine is the Amazon one with the crazy spelling of Husqvarna.

 

[hacskaroly]

I don't know. Mine is the Amazon one with the crazy spelling of Husqvarna.

Hnsavrqua? Only the best of the best!

 

[ammoaddict]

Hnsavrqua? Only the best of the best!

It's something like that

 

[9050lx]

I will have to try the Chinese Stlih saws one day.

 

[Ketchup]

I will have to try the Chinese Stlih saws one day.

A clone 661 raises an eyebrow. The 0xx stuff they manufacture now is pretty unremarkable. G366 is a possible exception. And the 880 clone hits a price point that makes sense for a saw you don’t need very often.

 

[MAF143]

I've worked on a couple of the Stihl 660 clones. One of them was a Holzfforma / Farmertec and my neighbor John's Farm Mac (maybe Neotec). I ported both of them. The Holzfforma I went kinda deep with a 288 piston (single ring with the ring ends on the intake side instead of the exhaust side) to get wider skirts and ports and much lighter piston. I dropped that cylinder a BUNCH to keep the ring ends out of the intake port roof and get the compression and timing where I wanted it. That was a learning experience for me and I'll probably not go that deep again. I haven't gotten to use the Holzfforma G660 since I got it back to the owner, but he loves it and is very happy.

The other F660 I just put in a new meteor piston and ported it. I run it quite often with a 42" bar on it and it pulls that with authority. It is a little weak on the bar oiling department with the 42" bar on it and does leak some. John says it's an absolute beast in his processing area with the 20" bar on it. I did flatten the clutch cover where it mates to the bar and that helped slow the oil leak, but the oiler hole on the bar clogs up very quickly under heavy use with the big bar fully buried in oak. I'll probably modify the oil pump, open up the bar's oil hole, change the rim sprocket, and put Stihl OEM chain adjuster parts in it to get it smoother to operate. I've checked the flatness of where the clutch side case mates to the bar and it is a little convex and that might be allowing oil to escape between the case, bar plate, and bar. That may also be where some sawdust may be getting in and clogging the bar's oil hole but I think it is mainly coming in through the chain groove just in front of the clutch sprocket. Next time the cases come apart on it I'll pop out the bar studs and flatten that bar mating surface. I'm thinking stepping up the oiler volume may keep a little of that blockage out of there.

 

[Ketchup]

The 660 was the flagship clone saw. They’re dirt cheap and large displacement, but if you get a good one it’s still just a 660. I’m totally biased towards husky in the older 90cc department. I find 660 annoying to work on and antiquated in design, so a clone version just lowers the bar. A lot of people like them though. If you haven’t run a bigger saw that much, a G660 probably feels great. At least they come in colors other than “dirty underwear” white.

 

[MAF143]

I haven't run big saws all that much. My woods doesn't really have much in it that would need anything larger than my 357 or 362. But once we started cutting some large White Oak trees for another neighbor, we ended up getting a couple larger saws for that. If I was cutting timber every day I would definitely get some real saws, but I can't really justify the expense to cut 4 or 5 huge trees a year to help out the neighborhood. I'm just a weekend warrior with a little time to tinker on stuff just enough to get it done. I'm content with being the friendly neighborhood hack that can safely get trees on the ground and keep my house warm with the wood. I enjoy learning from all the experience here and your generous sharing of information has saved me and my local friends tons of money and time over the years to allow us to heat our homes with wood on a budget.


Every time I've run a larger saw for the first time I end up saying something goofy like, "wow, that thing is awesome and fun to run". I also keep saying I don't need anything larger, but at some point one of my buddies or I run across a "deal" and end up with another saw. Not a bad thing cuz it is fun.

Being a firewood cutter to keep the house toasty and not a pro making a living cutting, I agree, the clone 660's feel great (and heavy) in my hands at this point. Someday I'll cut with something better and may have to move up to that. My 288 clone with a 32" bar is fun to run for me also but in those big 4' & 5' DBH trees a 42" bar on John's 660 clone works just fine. I lean toward huskies as well, but around here, we don't have a large community of used saws to get deals on so we get what we get and make them work.

 

[Ketchup]

we don't have a large community of used saws to get deals on so we get what we get and make them work.

That’s the truth of it. I’ll run the hell out of a 660 if that’s what I have.

If I’m shelling out for a big clone saw though, I’m going 395.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

When a buddy and I first got clones I picked a G372xp and he got the G660.
First off the 660 clone was pretty much ready to run strait out of the box, my 372xp needed an oem carburetor to run.
I've ended up finding 2 MS660 Stihls in scrap yards and restored them, and they run great for a 92cc saw.
I always thought the 395xp was the top dog of big saws that weren't crazy heavy ; up until I spent some time with a 592xp!
The original 372xp clone I bought has been incredibly reliable and tougher than expected, I ve dropped 100s of trees with it and let novices use it . Early on I ported it and gave it compression and it has soldiered on.
Every one says they blow the bottom bearings and crap out if pushed but I think if your not a ham fisted hammer donkey they'll obviously last years.
I have run hundreds of saws at this point and it's not difficult to get good results from any of them, clones included.

Dec 2020 still working in its original configuration.

 

[Outback]

There's something to be said for proper oil. The Chinese did not expect or recommend that anybody run 50/1.

 

[farminkarman]

I built a 372 from a “kit” three years ago. That saw was entirely AM, and I cut 0.050” from the squish band on it and ported it. That saw is still in use by a local tree service. I think it is on its 4th coil and third handlebar. Otherwise it is still killing trees.

 

[Maintenance Chief]

No doubt the stigma around clones in" my experience" is over stated . I also think some people shouldn't be allowed to have children! Lolol

 

[EFSM]

When a buddy and I first got clones I picked a G372xp and he got the G660.
First off the 660 clone was pretty much ready to run strait out of the box, my 372xp needed an oem carburetor to run.
I've ended up finding 2 MS660 Stihls in scrap yards and restored them, and they run great for a 92cc saw.
I always thought the 395xp was the top dog of big saws that weren't crazy heavy ; up until I spent some time with a 592xp!
The original 372xp clone I bought has been incredibly reliable and tougher than expected, I ve dropped 100s of trees with it and let novices use it . Early on I ported it and gave it compression and it has soldiered on.
Every one says they blow the bottom bearings and crap out if pushed but I think if your not a ham fisted hammer donkey they'll obviously last years.
I have run hundreds of saws at this point and it's not difficult to get good results from any of them, clones included.

Dec 2020 still working in its original configuration.

Not sure if your 372 is xtorq or not but the OE was way easier on bottom ends.