Any Chinese chainsaw and chinese parts discussion

[Spike60]

Another thought the Huztle 372XT's is assuming they are using the same top end that they sell on their site, how good is it? Any of you fellas try them out? What kind of squish do you see out of the box?

 

[Czed]

@Termitebuffet
Ran abnormal with a 8 pin
New tsumura and lgx skip

The normal seems to have a bit more torque
The abnormal has more topend
It feels like.
Only have 24" to run and the normal had handfiled full comp chain
Have to watch it on -20" inch tree's as fast as these cut it's easy to blow through the hinge.
Strongest 372s I've run
Bit thirsty lol

 

[Termitebuffet]

@Termitebuffet
Ran View attachment 193024 abnormal with a 8 pin
New tsumura and lgx skip
View attachment 193025
The normal seems to have a bit more torque
The abnormal has more topend
It feels like.
Only have 24" to run and the normal had handfiled full comp chain
Have to watch it on -20" inch tree's as fast as these cut it's easy to blow through the hinge.
Strongest 372s I've run
Bit thirsty lol

Thanks for the feedback ....I'm glad you're enjoying them...

Sent from a potato

 

[Czed]

https://www.shopcomstocklogging.com...STOCK-PRO-BAR-WHILE-SUPPLIES-LAST_p_1885.html
Somebody asked me about a tsumura
This is a good deal
Free chain.

 

[Czed]

@DefinitiveDave
Any experience with the xt aftermarket cylinder kits?

 

[Czed]

@afleetcommand
Have you used any am xt kits?

 

[afleetcommand]

Soon a power head will arrive, I'm kinda curious as to why...why would they make the XT when they could really double down and nail a OE with a 52mm top end if they wanted too

 

[Czed]

Soon a power head will arrive, I'm kinda curious as to why...why would they make the XT when they could really double down and nail a OE with a 52mm top end if they wanted too

Same here with everything they could've cloned
They went with the xt
Easy i guess with what they already produce.
I do like the xt carb for my oe saws
hopefully they are actually a xt clone.

 

[Leafy]

Oh yeah, does that mean they have an xt carb and intake for cheap on their site?

 

[Terry Syd]

I do like the xt carb for my oe saws

As I recall, you also had a modded Zama 'twin jet' carb. Which one do you prefer to use, the XT carb or the modded Zama? - and why?

 

[Czed]

Soon a power head will arrive, I'm kinda curious as to why...why would they make the XT when they could really double down and nail a OE with a 52mm top end if they wanted too

I bought a short block 365 Christmas special 50.00
It came with a bb kit and
A single ring 52mm piston
Odd since they don't sell single ring 372 pistons
That I've seen.

 

[Czed]

Cutting dead tree's with one of the pop up 272 piston saws.after a handfile the china upstart has done great

 

[Czed]

As I recall, you also had a modded Zama 'twin jet' carb. Which one do you prefer to use, the XT carb or the modded Zama? - and why?

Need to run them side by side
Haven't got a xt carb saw now.
I've got everything to build one
When i get time.
Been cutting a lot lately.

 

[afleetcommand]

XT power head from Farmertec has arrived...but quickly got "benched" for a week or so...a JonCutter g5800 arrived as well. Looked at the g5800 and...its an "uh oh" saw, looks to be perfect to hack. Vertical split cases, not a clam shell. $110 bucks. Cylinder comes off as it should...decent plastic. Light weight. Has a goofy spring assisted pull start. Did I mention metal cases?? Split as they should? Simple like the old saws from the 1980's/90's no goofy strato crap. $108 to your door??I may be getting ahead of myself...but this looks like fun to me. Lighter than even the 372's and 60cc class....wonder what it was derived from? And would the OEM cylinder fit from what ever it was?

 

[afleetcommand]

I think the big question to me will be answered when I pull the cylinder...open or close port, room to add x-sectional area? AND can I mod the intake to let this thing rev. Next month we will know if someone hasn't already gone there. I think one of the channel subscribers has already....at least that was implied by one of the messages. If not I will as it look like an easy saw to work on. Think of it as a $108 dollar "easel", no risk to try your hand at two stroke theory. Cheaper than a kit and already assembled.

 

[Czed]

I think the big question to me will be answered when I pull the cylinder...open or close port, room to add x-sectional area? AND can I mod the intake to let this thing rev. Next month we will know if someone hasn't already gone there. I think one of the channel subscribers has already....at least that was implied by one of the messages. If not I will as it look like an easy saw to work on. Think of it as a $108 dollar "easel", no risk to try your hand at two stroke theory. Cheaper than a kit and already assembled.

Does it look like this

 

[Czed]

XT power head from Farmertec has arrived...but quickly got "benched" for a week or so...a JonCutter g5800 arrived as well. Looked at the g5800 and...its an "uh oh" saw, looks to be perfect to hack. Vertical split cases, not a clam shell. $110 bucks. Cylinder comes off as it should...decent plastic. Light weight. Has a goofy spring assisted pull start. Did I mention metal cases?? Split as they should? Simple like the old saws from the 1980's/90's no goofy strato crap. $108 to your door??I may be getting ahead of myself...but this looks like fun to me. Lighter than even the 372's and 60cc class....wonder what it was derived from? And would the OEM cylinder fit from what ever it was?

Take a pic with the topcover when you get a chance
I'm curious about the intake.

 

[Czed]

@DefinitiveDave
Any experience with the xt aftermarket cylinder kits?

@Definitive Dave
Am xt thoughts?

 

[Leafy]

The John cutter saws are just over priced eBay saws. It's a redmax copy, they're great saws, dead reliable. They really scream once you put a bigger intake tube on it and a 372 carb and the high top air filter from aliexpress. I've done a few jugs already and they're all over the place, dual port 52cc ones you don't really have to touch the transfers, quad port ones are way stronger but I had to take like 1/4 from the top of the transfers on the one I ported. And the 58cc quad port jug on the 52cc bottom end unported actually run decent about equal to a ported dual port.

Hutzl told me they weren't planning to carry xt parts, but they would ask engineering if it was possible. So it sounds like to build the best saw now, buy an xt saw, XP jug and intake boot.

 

[Spike60]

What about parts??????????

The 2000 pound elephant in the room with these Joncutter saws is what are you supposed to do for parts for these things? There are no parts on the Huztl site that I can find, and unlike the Husky and Stihl clone saws, there are no OEM parts that can be used. What do you do if you need simple parts like a recoil spring, choke lever, air filter, fuel line, etc.

Even if these are faithful copies of pre-strato Red Max saws, there is little to no parts left for them. None are being produced. Unless an existing Red Max distributor has old stock in inventory, there's nothing to be had.

Fair to say that with the clones, there are plenty of OEM and AM parts for guys to choose from. And how many guys who are into the clones haven't needed parts at some point? Either for replacement or to upgrade an existing part that wasn't up to snuff. It's one thing to not be able to get parts for older saws, but why should anyone have to deal with that on a new saw?