OK, didn't see this coming

[afleetcommand]

This guy has his entire channel simply cookie cuts side by side .

I'll let the video do the talking

 

[Czed]

 

[davidwyby]

Not surprising. New tech vs. 10cc

 

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[Jake Dykstra]

Popa has some sweet saws for sure.
Does some great videos.

 

[Czed]

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I posted that on Reddit they call the 500i owner's
Fuel injected nobility.

 

[Powerstroke Cowboy]

The question I have, are both stock? The 500i looks to have a bark box on it.

There's only 1cc difference between the two, but supposedly 1 hp more going to the 500i.

The race was close.

 

[davidwyby]

Huh, and here I was assuming the 281 was same cc as the 288…and think back now I know they aren’t, smaller bore. Fart brain.

I’d bet the 281 makes more grunt and the 500 more hp/rpm.

 

[davidwyby]

No wonder I’ve always liked the 288 family…

 

[huskihl]

The question I have, are both stock? The 500i looks to have a bark box on it.

There's only 1cc difference between the two, but supposedly 1 hp more going to the 500i.

The race was close.

Hp numbers don’t matter if the amount of work required to cut the log requires more power than the saw has at its rated peak. That’s where area under the curve becomes more important

 

[redneckhillbilly]

the log looks wet or has something around the edge when the husky gets its turn, not sure what is going on there, but does seem strange.

 

[afleetcommand]

Wonder what the cost difference is , a clean 281 vs. a Stihl 500i. Fuel usage as well. My 281 actually isn't a fuel hog. And the value of having a saw fixable w/o dealer intervention. Think cookies are cool , but the cost of ownership/living with it vs. tree's on the landing over time type analysis would be interesting to me. Has to be value in having a saw that is supportable & part available. And HOW come the comparisons are always with smaller saws? Like 572. This is the first cookie comparison with a saw it's size, an OLD one but still one in it's displacement class. To do a similar thing if a 500i to 572 is a good comparison, then so is a equal cost 592 to 500i right?

 

[huskihl]

Wonder what the cost difference is , a clean 281 vs. a Stihl 500i. Fuel usage as well. My 281 actually isn't a fuel hog. And the value of having a saw fixable w/o dealer intervention. Think cookies are cool , but the cost of ownership/living with it vs. tree's on the landing over time type analysis would be interesting to me. Has to be value in having a saw that is supportable & part available. And HOW come the comparisons are always with smaller saws? Like 572. This is the first cookie comparison with a saw it's size, an OLD one but still one in it's displacement class. To do a similar thing if a 500i to 572 is a good comparison, then so is a equal cost 592 to 500i right?

I’ve actually never seen it compared to a smaller saw. I’ve seen the 500 run against or compared to the 660, 661, 390, 592, 585 much more than I’ve seen it running against smaller saws. People seem to think it’s magic but it’s really just another 79cc saw

 

[Czed]

I can't wait until stihl's patents run out
And then the
Holzfforma g500i blue thunder will be on the market for 299.00 with a carburetor.

 

[Czed]

Wonder what the cost difference is , a clean 281 vs. a Stihl 500i. Fuel usage as well. My 281 actually isn't a fuel hog. And the value of having a saw fixable w/o dealer intervention. Think cookies are cool , but the cost of ownership/living with it vs. tree's on the landing over time type analysis would be interesting to me. Has to be value in having a saw that is supportable & part available. And HOW come the comparisons are always with smaller saws? Like 572. This is the first cookie comparison with a saw it's size, an OLD one but still one in it's displacement class. To do a similar thing if a 500i to 572 is a good comparison, then so is a equal cost 592 to 500i right?

A nice 281/288 is 4-500.00 here
1706.00 after sales tax
I'd buy a 181/281/288 any day over this.

 

[drf256]

Isn’t a 288 the same weight?

 

[av8or3]

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But of course!

 

[davidwyby]

Isn’t a 288 the same weight?

As a 281? Yes. One might say that the 288 would have more long bar usable low rpm felling grunt. I have heard of a faller running a 42” on a 500, but in redwood which is like cedar. I was thoroughly impressed with my stock 288 with a 36” buried in salt cedar which is like cottonwood.

I think the only thing the i has going for it is light weight and not having to tune…but that comes with a price too when it fails.

Big Phil the timber faller just posted a vid about how he won’t do mtronic. Timber falling couple on YT/FB I think.


If one wants an 80cc lighter than the 288, there is the 7900 that will hang with the 500 too.

 

[davidwyby]

I think if one was running the saw all day they’d notice the 2lb diff between the 288 and 500, especially felling and processing trees. Cutting firewood? Nah. 288 all day. No reason to pay for the i.

 

[Czed]

I’ve actually never seen it compared to a smaller saw. I’ve seen the 500 run against or compared to the 660, 661, 390, 592, 585 much more than I’ve seen it running against smaller saws. People seem to think it’s magic but it’s really just another 79cc saw

The 500i is a way of life for some people