Current Oregon ownership is a conglomerate that looks for everyway possible to max return on investment. Their other claim to fame is buying a co loading up with debt after sucking it dry and then dumping it on the market. To that end likely chain made in chi-com territory. They also own Carlton and that chain has been slipping a bit as well. Stilh chain, customer came in with a bunch of loops that he had recently gotten at about 1/2 normal Stilh price, Green color of pre set was different than before. He has not *b-worded about them yet , maybe just a new batch of paint, question is new ancient stock or chi- com supply, or perhaps just an exceptional good deal ? couldn't tell on the grinder. chi-com stuff can be very good or worthless, all depends on your quality control