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Moparmyway

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Just curious, what is an acceptable tolerance?

1/100 of an inch does not seem like very much to me. Obviously, .010 is very poor.
I shoot for zero, if I'm 0.001 off, I figure out why, and get zero.

I've seen some guys look for no more than 0.001, but after you've centered a bunch of stuff , getting zero isn't too hard.
 

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Wow your dad was a badass....I have a 2-year old girl, and I can totally respect what he is saying."

He was a WW II Vet, and I'm sure he saw way too much. Was in the reserves when the war broke out, and served in a Reconnaissance unit - Tank Destroyers under Patton. Was in Battle of the Hedge Rows and Battle of the Bulge. Then because he spoke both German and Italian fluently, they used him as an Interpreter at the Nuremberg Trials.

He never spoke about most of it. One of the guys he served with came to his funeral and told us none of them would have made it back except they had captured a German Radio and my Dad was able to tell them what the Germans were going to do.

One of the few stories he did tell me was the first time they encountered a Tiger Tank. There were 13 American Tanks, and they thought they caught the Tiger looking the wrong way (likely it was playing possum). My Dad said our shells bounced off it like ping pong balls, and the Tiger wheeled the turret around and took out 7 of our tanks, the rest ran (our tanks were faster). It was a rude awakening, as they had sent them out there telling them our tanks were equal to anything out there.
 

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He was a WW II Vet, and I'm sure he saw way too much. Was in the reserves when the war broke out, and served in a Reconnaissance unit - Tank Destroyers under Patton. Was in Battle of the Hedge Rows and Battle of the Bulge. Then because he spoke both German and Italian fluently, they used him as an Interpreter at the Nuremberg Trials.

He never spoke about most of it. One of the guys he served with came to his funeral and told us none of them would have made it back except they had captured a German Radio and my Dad was able to tell them what the Germans were going to do.

One of the few stories he did tell me was the first time they encountered a Tiger Tank. There were 13 American Tanks, and they thought they caught the Tiger looking the wrong way (likely it was playing possum). My Dad said our shells bounced off it like ping pong balls, and the Tiger wheeled the turret around and took out 7 of our tanks, the rest ran (our tanks were faster). It was a rude awakening, as they had sent them out there telling them our tanks were equal to anything out there.

My Grandpa is a WW2 vet and was in The Battle of the Bulge. Never said much about the war. But said it was the coldest he ever been in his life couldn't breath with out a scarf over you face.

Greatest Generation EVER! And now look at what we have crawling around reaping the rewards from there great sacrifices.
 
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But said it was the coldest he ever been in his life couldn't breath with out a scarf over you face.

Yea, my Dad said it was so cold that even if you got invited into the Officers Headquarters (to get warm), you would not do it, because then you would have to get re acclimated to the cold again. He said it was better to just stay out in it.

He also always said his bad back was the result of sleeping in cold wet fox holes, but it never stopped him from doing anything.
 

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Yea, my Dad said it was so cold that even if you got invited into the Officers Headquarters (to get warm), you would not do it, because then you would have to get re acclimated to the cold again. He said it was better to just stay out in it.

He also always said his bad back was the result of sleeping in cold wet fox holes, but it never stopped him from doing anything.

It's truly amazing how soft people have become.
 

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Not so Sir,
IIRC ........... there is a formula for figuring it out, but I've got an easier way to see for sure, without the possibility of tangent errors
Figuring it out is very easy..........
I'm just going to put it against a digital dial indicator and see how much it reads at .010 and .020
No formula you have will give you the exact amount you are truly out relative to the tip you are using unless you know the exact angle you are set up at. If you use a DTI every single day of your professional life (as I do and I'm sure most machinist/toolmakers do) then you well know that unless you have a way to calibrate the angle your tip is at, you cannot get a "true reading" unless your indicator is reading "0" and your needle is not moving. Once the angle changes your scale changes.

Each manufacturer provides the angle they are calibrated at. Outside of that angle your reading is skewed. How much? Not enough to matter for chainsaw cylinders. But my point is that the formula I provided above will get you very close.

Sorry for the rant. As the original point you made was Jason's cylinder is out of square. I was just making an observation that the base looked out .010 to me and the only way it would've been out .005-.010 more or less was if you were using a significantly longer or shorter tip. But I apologize for tracking off point.
 

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It's truly amazing how soft people have become.

Mentally & Physically! There is no longer any shame to be on (or pride not to be on) public assistance.

They were the "get it done" generation. I remember when I was a kid my Dad hauled a large boulder out of a hole he was digging by hand by chaining the boulder to the rear axle of his 58 Chevy Wagon (which he then drove across the yard).
 

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Mentally & Physically! There is no longer any shame to be on (or pride not to be on) public assistance.

They were the "get it done" generation. I remember when I was a kid my Dad hauled a large boulder out of a hole he was digging by hand by chaining the boulder to the rear axle of his 58 Chevy Wagon (which he then drove across the yard).

Oh I have pride. A direct coworker making the same hourly wage had his kids on Health wave ( State of Kansas insurance ) And when I had my kid I had him on my insurance. I could of qualified for assistance but didn't want to. It about broke me but I wasn't going to be a easy way out type.

Oh yeah I rode that mother frenchie ass about being a punk.
 

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It's actually PATHETIC. I can't even watch the news anymore, it infuriates me badly how pussified the up-and-coming generation is.
I see it all the time ......
Had an A/C unit go down in an area. Was 97 degrees outside and my guys were working on the unit, not a cloud in the sky, every guy on the roof was soaked with sweat. The people in the area of the downed unit cried when it hit 85 degrees in their space, their bosses sent them home saying that they were getting heatstroke.

Imagine that: office pukes couldn't sit at their cushy chairs in 85 while we worked on the roof in 97.

Here's the kicker.........1/2 of the office staff met at the beach. They wasn't getting heatstroke out in the 97 degree sun, but that 85 degree office was unbearable.

Then they demanded a credit on their rent for not being able to work
 

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It's actually PATHETIC. I can't even watch the news anymore, it infuriates me badly how pussified the up-and-coming generation is.

I can't agree with you more. I know I'm pussified compared to the times past...but seeing what we have coming up behind us...get pissed off thinking about how entitled most are.
 

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I see it all the time ......
Had an A/C unit go down in an area. Was 97 degrees outside and my guys were working on the unit, not a cloud in the sky, every guy on the roof was soaked with sweat. The people in the area of the downed unit cried when it hit 85 degrees in their space, their bosses sent them home saying that they were getting heatstroke.

Imagine that: office pukes couldn't sit at their cushy chairs in 85 while we worked on the roof in 97.

Here's the kicker.........1/2 of the office staff met at the beach. They wasn't getting heatstroke out in the 97 degree sun, but that 85 degree office was unbearable.

Then they demanded a credit on their rent for not being able to work

Just a way out of work. I imagine they all got paid for it too. It's a sad world now...with no outlook of it getting any better.
 

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I can't agree with you more. I know I'm pussified compared to the times past...but seeing what we have coming up behind us...get pissed off thinking about how entitled most are.

My grandpap came home from the south pacific and worked infront of a blast furnace around 130 degrees for 46 years at the airbrake in east pittsburgh , and 21 of those 46 he worked 2 jobs the other in the construction business....those guys made no excuses , i admire them.

I have a cool picture of him and 6 of his friends after work with black faces standing infront of the mill in 1952 , better times for those guys.
 
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Sooooo
I setup my digital against the indicator in question. Moved the carrier 0.010 on the digital and have 0.010 on the indicator

Soooooo
Ryans base is out 0.010

@GoBigBlue1984 ....... nice call on this !

Im still not sure if im glad or sad you found all this kev.
 
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