What to order with a Simington 451C

[Thumper88]

Alright fellers, I plan to order a 451C square grinder by the end of the month. I plan to go through Madsens to order it. I’ll be ordering the grinder which should also include the stand and one wheel. I’m gonna also order a blue wheel for better finishes and a silicone carbide dressing brick for rough shaping the grinding wheels. I plan to order a few loops of square ground Oregon chain for my 390 and 462 so that I have something to compare to when I first set it up before converting over my round ground chains. Anything I’m missing that I should add to the order?

 

[huskihl]

The grinder comes with single diamond point dressers for the wheel. There’s a multi point dresser that some say is better.

I’d also pickup a white wheel. They work pretty well for converting from round or fixing rocked cutters

 

[CLEARCUT]

The grinder comes with single diamond point dressers for the wheel. There’s a multi point dresser that some say is better.

I’d also pickup a white wheel. They work pretty well for converting from round or fixing rocked cutters

I certainly prefer the multi-point.

 

[CLEARCUT]

They seem to provide a better dressing with less vibration IMO.

 

[huskihl]

They seem to provide a better dressing with less vibration IMO.

I’ve heard the same, why I mentioned it. Never tried one myself

 

[CLEARCUT]

I’ve heard the same, why I mentioned it. Never tried one myself

I ran the singles for awhile, and finally decided to try the multi-point, and I’m glad I did.

 

[dall]

the single points are good at getting the angles of the wheel quick
the multipoint makes a smoother finish

 

[huskihl]

the single points are good at getting the angles of the wheel quick
the multipoint makes a smoother finish

What time will you be here? I gots werk for ya

 

[dall]

What time will you be here? I gots werk for ya

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you should have already been done with them lol

 

[huskihl]

you should have already been done with them lol

I’ve spent a few hours the last couple days on them. So far each one needed a trip through the round grinder first to straighten them up lol. I’ll get there

 

[chiselbit]

Alright fellers, I plan to order a 451C square grinder by the end of the month. I plan to go through Madsens to order it. I’ll be ordering the grinder which should also include the stand and one wheel. I’m gonna also order a blue wheel for better finishes and a silicone carbide dressing brick for rough shaping the grinding wheels. I plan to order a few loops of square ground Oregon chain for my 390 and 462 so that I have something to compare to when I first set it up before converting over my round ground chains. Anything I’m missing that I should add to the order?

If they still have the plastic chain holder you might see if it’s still possible to get the metal one for a silvey, it can be used on the simington and in my opinion it’s way better than the plastic which seems to wear down and change angles. Madsens used to have parts for silveys. Don’t know if they still do.

 

[dall]

If they still have the plastic chain holder you might see if it’s still possible to get the metal one for a silvey, it can be used on the simington and in my opinion it’s way better than the plastic which seems to wear down and change angles. Madsens used to have parts for silveys. Don’t know if they still do.

I have a Shawn Carr holder on mine

 

[pbillyi69]

i would get a grey to learn with they are more forgiving while you learn how to not blue your cutters. i use the for fixing damaged chains because i can grind more off faster and not overheat the tooth

 

[MG2186]

I like the Salmon wheels myself. We all have our own preferences. You’ll try them all at some point, I did at least

 

[pbillyi69]

salmon are the ones i use the most. when im just doing my own chains that havent been damaged in any way. but if they have been rocked really bad or they are someone elses chain they are usually pretty bad and the grey ones dont get the tooth as hot as fast

 

[srcarr52]

If they still have the plastic chain holder you might see if it’s still possible to get the metal one for a silvey, it can be used on the simington and in my opinion it’s way better than the plastic which seems to wear down and change angles. Madsens used to have parts for silveys. Don’t know if they still do.

The steel ones I make for the Silvey RSII will fit on the Simington, you just have to space it out a little to get it on the arm center line.

 

[MG2186]

The steel ones I make for the Silvey RSII will fit on the Simington, you just have to space it out a little to get it on the arm center line.

Shaun do you make one for .058 as well?

 

[srcarr52]

Shaun do you make one for .058 as well?

I can, but it sucks. In the past I've just cut both sides for 50g and then ground out the one to 58g. I usually end up shooting the chain holder off my groove grinder a few times, it spat one through the wall once. I think I bought a slitting saw that should make the correct groove but it's a different diameter wheel so I'll have to change my CNC program.

So in short, I can, but I don't really want to.

 

[chiselbit]

Well, the next time you feel like putting holes in the wall,,, I’d buy a .050/.058

 

[MG2186]

I can, but it sucks. In the past I've just cut both sides for 50g and then ground out the one to 58g. I usually end up shooting the chain holder off my groove grinder a few times, it spat one through the wall once. I think I bought a slitting saw that should make the correct groove but it's a different diameter wheel so I'll have to change my CNC program.

So in short, I can, but I don't really want to.

Is the regular one you make 050/063 like what comes on them or just 050? How much are they?