What oil is best? and what ratio?

[huskyboy]

Why are ignition modules on a saw sealed? To keep out moisture and dirt most likely...

 

[RI Chevy]

You guys go run your saws in the rain. Knock yourselves out. I will cut when its dry. [emoji106]

 

[RI Chevy]

That's why I never drive my truck during the rain....

Different filtering on your cars and trucks Kevin. I run metal mesh filters on my sawz. Not worth the risk for me.

 

[huskihl]

I'm not gonna cut in the rain because I dont wanna get a wet ass. A saw could probably care less

 

[RI Chevy]

Nuthin ta do with a wet ass.
Anyone who knows me, knows that.

 

[huskyboy]

Different filtering on your cars and trucks Kevin. I run metal mesh filters on my sawz. Not worth the risk for me.

Filter with no cover would be bad in rain...a factory saw with a filter cover on it is just fine.

 

[RI Chevy]

You took out Foam. Lol
You guys go do whatcha gotta do. [emoji108]

 

[huskyboy]

You took out Foam. Lol
You guys go do whatcha gotta do. [emoji108]

Any filter exposed to the elements on a saw will let rain in if your not running a cover.

 

[huskyboy]

Actually...maybe the outerwears might resist rain/moisture? I don’t remember what they said. I still wouldn’t run no cover in rain.

 

[RI Chevy]

Me neither

 

[RI Chevy]

What did you think of it Julian?
Whatchu usin these dayz?

 

[Redbull661]

What did you think of it Julian?
Whatchu usin these dayz?

not bad. but seen better...IMO

honda hp2 36-40:1
or schaeffers 7000 or 9000 either at 32:1.
Honda a little thicker viscosity and it just seems to run more free at 36 or 40:1 vs 32:1.

some honda hp2 pics below 2 gallons run at 32:1 661 36" 404RS


fyi - @sawmikaze has been running 40:1 hp2 in all of his saws or maybe it's all the saws in his tree service? ...anyway, good results.

 

[Dub11]

Actually...maybe the outerwears might resist rain/moisture? I don’t remember what they said. I still wouldn’t run no cover in rain.

Frogzskins keep water out.

 

[RI Chevy]

@Redbull661

Wow Julian, can't argue with those results. I got me some Honda oil. Gotta try it next.

 

[RI Chevy]

This is my plug after running a Red Armor, Klotz, VP oil cocktail. Oil used with VP SEF.
MOFO 026 with a generally fat tune. Just cut 4 straight days running saw WOT for most cuts. Went through 1 gallon of bar oil for the job. 8 decent sized trees, 18 to 20" diameter sticks. Plug is the same one that came on my saw. About 2 years old.
Around 32ish:1.

 

[andyshine77]

Some oils are known to be very hygroscopic, for this reason it's not best to run these oils in saws IMHO. Klotz original techniplate is believed to be one of these oils.

 

[sawmikaze]

not bad. but seen better...IMO

honda hp2 36-40:1
or schaeffers 7000 or 9000 either at 32:1.
Honda a little thicker viscosity and it just seems to run more free at 36 or 40:1 vs 32:1.

some honda hp2 pics below 2 gallons run at 32:1 661 36" 404RS


fyi - @sawmikaze has been running 40:1 hp2 in all of his saws or maybe it's all the saws in his tree service? ...anyway, good results.

44:1 because that's the first line after 50:1 on the ratio rite I have, works good in computer saws..I dig it.

I think it's too thick at the heavier ratios for smaller saws..actually I'll probably mix it at 50:1 eventually.

 

[Moparmyway]

Some oils are known to be very hygroscopic, for this reason it's not best to run these oils in saws IMHO. Klotz original techniplate is believed to be one of these oils.

Yes

This is one of two reasons why I asked:

I only notice “condensation” in saws with OTP and the Klotz OTP container says for race only. Doesn’t say anything about corrosion protection and even suggests fogging if you’re going to be storing it.

Just about every other good oil says stuff about corrosion protection and some even have fuel stabilizers for storage. Maxima K2, for example has details about corrosion protection.

Also, I’ve got some old Red Armor, smells like dead fish ........ the new Red Armor doesn’t smell like it at all. It’s definitely alot different from what it was

 

[andyshine77]

Yes

This is one of two reasons why I asked:

I only notice “condensation” in saws with OTP and the Klotz OTP container says for race only. Doesn’t say anything about corrosion protection and even suggests fogging if you’re going to be storing it.

Just about every other good oil says stuff about corrosion protection and some even have fuel stabilizers for storage. Maxima K2, for example has details about corrosion protection.

Also, I’ve got some old Red Armor, smells like dead fish ........ the new Red Armor doesn’t smell like it at all. It’s definitely alot different from what it was

This is exactly why I have stayed away from Klotz original techniplate, and a few other oils like Dominator, Red Line and a few others. These oils state specifically they contain no corrosion inhibitors, and are notbro be use as storage lubricants.

To me most of the high end oils run clean. IMHO other factors like fuel, tuning and how the saw is ran, determines internal cleanliness, not just the oil. Only a few oils made a true mess of things, Klotz super techniplate comes to mind.

 

[bwalker]

So what you are saying is it's ok to run 40:1 or even 32:1 in a machine with a non adjustable carb that the manufacturer says to run 50:1?

I've been wanting to, but scared to change to 40:1 in the equipment at work because some of it has non adjustable carbs.

Also if you could only choose between Stihl ultra, Red armor or one of the husqvarna oils, which would be the best choice?

Would not run Ultra.
I would suggest you try it and pay attention to tuning while doing so. Its likely you will be fine.