What oil is best? and what ratio?

[Keith Gandy]

I ran out of coffee and picked up a 40oz bag of beans. Just Eight O Clock Columbian Peaks. Hell, it's pretty damn good coffee for the price.

I'll be back on the Coffee Snob brew before long though.

We have that one here too. Nakatosh Coffee is decent. I like Kona Coffee too

 

[Magnumitis]

Hooray Red Armor!!!













That is all.

 

[Windthrown]

Dennys got me hooked on this stuff years ago when it was 10 cents a cup. Makes good Joe.

 

[Windthrown]

Fusion blend on this thread:

Coffee oil, wakes your saw right up in the morning!

 

[jake wells]

i use what i can afford

 

[jk14]

I've been using saber for quite a while now with no complaints. I was at the local echo dealer and asked what the price of the red armor was, and the 6.4oz. 2.5gal. mix bottles were $2.50. Seemed like decent price so I grabbed a six pack

 

[jake wells]

I've been using saber for quite a while now with no complaints. I was at the local echo dealer and asked what the price of the red armor was, and the 6.4oz. 2.5gal. mix bottles were $2.50. Seemed like decent price so I grabbed a six pack

its 3.50 per bottle here.

 

[Joe Kidd]

My family lives on this coffee. Lol
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..and it's one of Obama's favorite. Homeland at it's best.

 

[Nitehawk55]

I can't drink coffee so I drink 2 cycle oil instead

 

[Redbull661]

there is a local tree service who has scott aka tree monkey port all their saws. They absolutely will only run the cheapest oil and only at 50:1. Scott has told them to run more oil countless times but they absolutely insist on 50:1.

They roast a saw every few months. They keep on buying new saws and having scott port them...he's not complaining! lol (Again he's told them again and again and again to run 32 - 40:1.)

Anyway, this is what it looks like... (everything dry as a bone)

So now to the flip side. Scott has a 440 run on 32:1 which has well over 1,000 gallons of gas through it ....he has never roasted any of his saws or any other 2 stroke equipment running 32:1.

 

[RI Chevy]

That piston almost looks straight gassed.

 

[bwalker]

there is a local tree service who has scott aka tree monkey port all their saws. They absolutely will only run the cheapest oil and only at 50:1. Scott has told them to run more oil countless times but they absolutely insist on 50:1.

They roast a saw every few months. They keep on buying new saws and having scott port them...he's not complaining! lol (Again he's told them again and again and again to run 32 - 40:1.)

Anyway, this is what it looks like... (everything dry as a bone)

So now to the flip side. Scott has a 440 run on 32:1 which has well over 1,000 gallons of gas through it ....he has ever roasted any of his saws or any other 2 stroke equipment running 32:1.

there is a local tree service who has scott aka tree monkey port all their saws. They absolutely will only run the cheapest oil and only at 50:1. Scott has told them to run more oil countless times but they absolutely insist on 50:1.

They roast a saw every few months. They keep on buying new saws and having scott port them...he's not complaining! lol (Again he's told them again and again and again to run 32 - 40:1.)

Anyway, this is what it looks like... (everything dry as a bone)

So now to the flip side. Scott has a 440 run on 32:1 which has well over 1,000 gallons of gas through it ....he has ever roasted any of his saws or any other 2 stroke equipment running 32:1.

That motor was run extremely lean and would look no different ran at a 32:1 ratio.
Keep in mind as you lean the air fuel ratio you also reduce the amount of oil. Less fuel going throught the motor,less oil. Which is why strato saws have much less lubrication going through them than regular saws.

 

[stihl saws]

I ran out of coffee and picked up a 40oz bag of beans. Just Eight O Clock Columbian Peaks. Hell, it's pretty damn good coffee for the price.

I'll be back on the Coffee Snob brew before long though.

The Eight O Clock Columbian has always been my favorite grocery store coffee. I'm not a connoisseur though, like some of you guys.

 

[stihl saws]

That motor was run extremely lean and would look no different ran at a 32:1 ratio.
Keep in mind as you lean the air fuel ratio you also reduce the amount of oil. Less fuel going throught the motor,less oil. Which is why strato saws have much less lubrication going through them than regular saws.

My thoughts exactly. Now where is the coffee and tuning screwdriver?

 

[X 66 stang347 X]

Looks like a 661. poor saw

 

[big t double]

Looks like a 661. poor saw

Poly flywheel says 461...661's have aluminum.

 

[jake wells]

some tree companys are just plain ignorant.

 

[junkman]

mmmmm coffee .

 

[rogue60]

there is a local tree service who has scott aka tree monkey port all their saws. They absolutely will only run the cheapest oil and only at 50:1. Scott has told them to run more oil countless times but they absolutely insist on 50:1.

They roast a saw every few months. They keep on buying new saws and having scott port them...he's not complaining! lol (Again he's told them again and again and again to run 32 - 40:1.)

Anyway, this is what it looks like... (everything dry as a bone)

So now to the flip side. Scott has a 440 run on 32:1 which has well over 1,000 gallons of gas through it ....he has ever roasted any of his saws or any other 2 stroke equipment running 32:1.

Yep that looks about right for a 90cc + saw running 50:1 a work saw actually getting worked that is. It would have to be tuned so fat constant 4 stroking under load running cold as and doing bugger all work for it not to look like this in a 90cc + saw running 50:1 this is the normal result but of course the common reply tuned lean must have air leaks crank seal gone on pto side blah blah etc is never the lack of oil in the mix for the actual work a saw is doing no matter the cc.
You can imagine how fast this happens over here in the middle of summer in 40°C/105°F heat.
I don't get the oil is bad way of thinking now days if a saw tunes nice burns clean runs cooler under load has more power last years and years with no failures with more oil in the mix how is that a bad thing? lol.. And I like the good old an air leak is instant death for a saw line truth is that would be no its not if you actually have oil in the mix the guys that have had a known air leak and kept running the saw know what I'm talking about but they sure ain't running 50:1 lol

Thought I'd add the more oil in the mix = carbon build up in the exhaust port and on top of the piston crown and it will break off and score the piston and/or bore so more oil is bad blah blah myth line.
The reality of this is carbon build up is thanks to way off tune nothing more! you can tune a saw to clean burn at any oil mix ratio thats fact (shock horror).
If someone has (I doubt anyone here has had the carbon problems) carbon build up it just means they cant tune a saw for crap! most I think get a saw in to fix and it has had carbon problems and say see to much oil and forget it has to do with tune not mix ratio.
Lets not forget the 40 year old McCulloch chainsaws and the guys that say see too much oil look at the carbon in the exhaust port and say see oil = bad! no kidding hey it's only been running for 40 or so bloody years most of that on 30w engine oil these things can happen after a generation or two lol.
So many myths and old wives tales not to mention guessing games when it comes to oil in chainsaws.

 

[CoreyB]

Switchedback to Red Armor from saber today.
I really like how the red armor tunes. Not that the Saber was bad or hard. Just seemed to creep. Running rich until the saw got good and hot then it would lean up. So if I tuned it spot on shortly after warming up it would be lean once hot.