Was the Echo CS-7310P a fad or is anyone running them?

[wolfriverchainsaw.com]

The 7310 is a vary good saw but it's not a game changer it's just a good solid saw' when it's price is so close to the 572 or 462 there is no overwhelming reason to buy the 7310.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Back to the echo 7310p: dmn is this thing smooth! Lot easier on my hands than the ported cs 8000.

Balances a light 32" bar perfectly. Carb settings are a bit rich. Best $700 I've spent in a long time.

The savings from pinching pennies across my fleet of saws/cutting equipment is going into bringing a second 1 ton truck and a second trailer on board. Hopefully this spring I can hire a helper.

"Serious tree work":
When I get a booboo, I don't cry about them on go fund me then go on a stihl-spendin spree with the proceeds. When work dries up I don't have to cry about it on ope classifieds and sell off my stihls to get by. Perspective.........

Well the 500$ you saved on your saws won’t buy an extra truck, not saying saving money isn’t a good thing and every bit helps but in the grand scheme saving 5-700 on saws buys most people and extra couple weeks groceries. If your cutting it that close the brand of saw you use won’t matter.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

I'm confused, is this thread about using an Echo 7310?

Or is it reserved for dogging on the echo brand and those who are using them?

Lehman,
Frugality in small business at every possible avenue, works for me. It adds up over the years.

Sht, a pair $400 boots last 6-8 months. They were 40 percent that cost a half decade ago. I've even resorted to buying lightly used work boots.

Hit a stump at a cutsite? alignment shop wants $1500 to replace & align.

Crawled around on the cold snow and replaced it all myself @ $540 did the alignment with a fkn tape measure.


Mad respect to those bigger cutting outfits who keep keep an entire cutting crew employed. I wouldn't wish a business start up on anybody.

 

[bwalker]

I'm confused, is this thread about using an Echo 7310?

Or is it reserved for dogging on the echo brand and those who are using them?

Lehman,
Frugality in small business at every possible avenue, works for me. It adds up over the years.

Picking a higher margin business pays up even more...HINT.
For some reason I doubt there is a huge need for tree services in semi rural Alaska where just about everyone owns a chain saw.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Picking a higher margin business pays up even more...HINT.
For some reason I doubt there is a huge need for tree services in semi rural Alaska where just about everyone owns a chain saw.

It's very seasonal. Sometimes u gotta be willing to travel. When it dries up, I own 15 acres of birch. So resort to milling slabs, and processing firewood. Cord of split birch goes $400

I have an order for a 32 1.5 inch slabs of birch, so will deliver that in the spring

Last season, I put in a bid on a fiberoptic easment clear cut for one of the villages. Many miles long, it would've been many months of stable work. Even with a veterans preference, nepotism won out.

So u can even waste many days, building out a budget/formal bid and not get that time back.

Yep there will come a time when I won't be able to be in the woods where I love to be.

When that happens, nobody knows. Maybe a barber chair?

Or maybe there will be enough mobility left to work with the VA on a vocational rehab program into something boringly soft.

 

[bwalker]

It's very seasonal. Sometimes u gotta be willing to travel. When it dries up, I own 15 acres of birch. So resort to milling slabs, and processing firewood. Cord of split birch goes $400

I have an order for a 32 1.5 inch slabs of birch, so will deliver that in the spring

Last season, I put in a bid on a fiberoptic clear cut for the villages. Even with a veterans preference, nepotism won out.

So u can even waste many days, building out a budget/formal bid and not get that time back.

I understand all to well how it goes in small rural towns.

 

[sawmikaze]

Well the 500$ you saved on your saws won’t buy an extra truck, not saying saving money isn’t a good thing and every bit helps but in the grand scheme saving 5-700 on saws buys most people and extra couple weeks groceries. If your cutting it that close the brand of saw you use won’t matter.

Being cheap has it's place, when the guys and I started we had nothing...literally, none of us had much to bring to the table other than a few good saws, some ropes and a few belts and a few thousand dollars between us. We bought a junk ass dump truck and an old altec diesel chipper that we prayed started everyday. Our first summer we rented a machine a few times when it was borderline impossible to do the job without one..but for the most part..we did it the hard way...some days were hell on earth carrying all the wood out..people thought we were retarded..we had no choice..didn't have the money..So...sometimes you gotta cut corners..

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Being cheap has it's place, when the guys and I started we had nothing...literally, none of us had much to bring to the table other than a few good saws, some ropes and a few belts and a few thousand dollars between us. We bought a junk ass dump truck and an old altec diesel chipper that we prayed started everyday. Our first summer we rented a machine a few times when it was borderline impossible to do the job without one..but for the most part..we did it the hard way...some days were hell on earth carrying all the wood out..people thought we were retarded..we had no choice..didn't have the money..So...sometimes you gotta cut corners..

Didn’t mean it to come out offensive if it did, I get it I still save whatever I can where I can and fix my own stuff when possible. Just got done putting a new gas valve I my boiler and bought the gauge to set manifold pressure on it. Valve was 350$ locally and 3-400 to install, bought same valve off internet for 139$ and the manometer to set the manifold pressure in inches of water for 50$.

 

[sawmikaze]

Didn’t mean it to come out offensive if it did, I get it I still save whatever I can where I can and fix my own stuff when possible. Just got done putting a new gas valve I my boiler and bought the gauge to set manifold pressure on it. Valve was 350$ locally and 3-400 to install, bought same valve off internet for 139$ and the manometer to set the manifold pressure in inches of water for 50$.

I've never been offended in my life...you don't have to worry about that.

The point is if you're doing something that's actually efficient in the tree world and a couple hundred bucks is hurting you something isn't going right. If we were still in the same place we were when we started I'd be questioning if we were doing something wrong, I think most rational people would think that.

If you would've told me 5 years ago I'd be where we are now I would've laughed..literally. but..it's a humbling experience at the same time..it could all end tomorrow..I NEVER lose sight of that. I could be in a wheelchair the rest of my life with one lapse of judgment. I almost was...

 

[Woodpecker]

I'm confused, is this thread about using an Echo 7310?

Or is it reserved for dogging on the echo brand and those who are using them?

I hope you don’t live in a glass house up there in Alaska? You’ve done plenty of rock slinging in this thread. To a point where you’re above statement is comically hypocritical. Just because this is a thread about the 7310 doesn’t mean you can bash Stihl and Husky but then cry about it when others bash Echo.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

No glass house sir. It was built with echo milling saws, my own 2 hands and reclaimed materials.

Well, smidgen of it was built with an 881 mag and a 660 mag too I suppose.

I joined this sight because of the echo bashing on the other one. My apologies, I'm feisty about defending the echo brand and will pipe down a bit.

Have a merry Christmas folks and thanks for putting up with me.

 

[bwalker]

I joined this sight because of the echo bashing on the other one. My apologies, I'm feisty about defending the echo brand and will pipe down a bit.

Have a merry Christmas folks and thanks for putting up with meme.

Are you paid by Echo? If not why are you so invested? No one ever says they are junk in these threads. They just mention they aren't the equal to Husky or Stihl, which is true. And that's OK, they are cheaper.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

Are you paid by Echo? If not why are you so invested? No one ever says they are junk in these threads. They just mention they aren't the equal to Husky or Stihl, which is true. And that's OK, they are cheaper.

Nope, I'm self employed, unsponsered by anybody.

If you look back a ways, you'll see my disdain for the cs 4910 and why the stihl 261 is the better saw, as well as my complaints of inflation on the echo 7310.

I would like to someday visit the factories state-side and Japan.

I'm not brand loyal on anything. My first work truck was a w350 dodge cummins. My second was a 1990 1 ton square body crew cab chevy diesel.

My 2 current trucks are chevy k30 and ford f350.

My next saw purchase will probably be a ported 3120 as I dread any rubber AV saw in the winter.

A builder here who sponsors this site, im also trying to pry away his personal 390xp. If I keep bugging him, hopefully I get smoking deal.

 

[Outdoors]

I think everyone has been waiting on something big from Echo, the 7310 was an excellent presentation of there potential and what they can offer. Some are still awaiting a 80cc-90cc saw updated saw from Echo. There is a market to to be had here with correct build and pricing. Echo is a large company with as much technology as the other but they don't seem to make a presence in the "large pro saw category". They could by all means but I don't know what the hold up is. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Mig_Selv]

Are you paid by Echo? If not why are you so invested? No one ever says they are junk in these threads. They just mention they aren't the equal to Husky or Stihl, which is true. And that's OK, they are cheaper.

It very much depends how you measure. I have never had Husky saws, as they don't have a good dealer network where I've been.
I do have a couple of Stihl saws as well, one of them old enough to be pre-electronics, which you'll have to pry from my cold dead hands.
....and just for the record, I don't give a rats behind what brand my saws are. I also am relatively indifferent if it's a few hundred $ more or less to purchase.
However, as soon as you have to be self sufficient, the electronic carburetor brands are all of a sudden not terribly attractive anymore, neither is a saw that is pushed to the very limit.
Here reliability, low maintenance, and most important the ability to repair on the spot, is really the currency of interest.
Seen from that point of view, I can't think of a saw in this class, that measures up to the 7310, that is currently in production.

It all depends how you weigh the respective cons and pros.
If I was in an area with a good Stihl or Husky dealership, half an hour drive away, I'd sure have looked into those.

 

[bwalker]

It very much depends how you measure. I have never had Husky saws, as they don't have a good dealer network where I've been.
I do have a couple of Stihl saws as well, one of them old enough to be pre-electronics, which you'll have to pry from my cold dead hands.
....and just for the record, I don't give a rats behind what brand my saws are. I also am relatively indifferent if it's a few hundred $ more or less to purchase.
However, as soon as you have to be self sufficient, the electronic carburetor brands are all of a sudden not terribly attractive anymore, neither is a saw that is pushed to the very limit.
Here reliability, low maintenance, and most important the ability to repair on the spot, is really the currency of interest.
Seen from that point of view, I can't think of a saw in this class, that measures up to the 7310, that is currently in production.

It all depends how you weigh the respective cons and pros.
If I was in an area with a good Stihl or Husky dealership, half an hour drive away, I'd sure have looked into those.

The electric carb saws additional parts are a solenoid and a few wires. Chainsaws even with e carbs are dead simple.
Personally you couldn't give me one of those old Stihls at this point. The new Stihl are much better.
Then there is the fact that sooner or latter all two cycle chainsaws will have technologies at least as complex as current strato charged e carb saws and even more so as time goes by. Echo is still able to sell relics because of the EPA emmissions credit scheme and the fact they sell very few chainsaws.

 

[Mastermind]

It very much depends how you measure. I have never had Husky saws, as they don't have a good dealer network where I've been.
I do have a couple of Stihl saws as well, one of them old enough to be pre-electronics, which you'll have to pry from my cold dead hands.
....and just for the record, I don't give a rats behind what brand my saws are. I also am relatively indifferent if it's a few hundred $ more or less to purchase.
However, as soon as you have to be self sufficient, the electronic carburetor brands are all of a sudden not terribly attractive anymore, neither is a saw that is pushed to the very limit.
Here reliability, low maintenance, and most important the ability to repair on the spot, is really the currency of interest.
Seen from that point of view, I can't think of a saw in this class, that measures up to the 7310, that is currently in production.

It all depends how you weigh the respective cons and pros.
If I was in an area with a good Stihl or Husky dealership, half an hour drive away, I'd sure have looked into those.

I absolutely get it.

Same reason my newest truck is a 1987 Dodge, and my newest tractor is a 1978 John Deere.

I have a MS362 on my bench right now that the MDG interface will not even recognize. Once I input the serial number, it knows that it is a MS362, but cannot communicate with the control module. Testing the system is impossible without the ability to connect to it. So what can I do? Shoot it with the parts cannon? I normally have a new Stihl of most every model here, but I don't have a MS362 because I don't see many new MS362s since the MS400 was released. So....I can't just swap parts till it fires up. I'm going to see if it will run with a MS400 control module tomorrow.

 

[mrxlh]

I don’t think the 7310 will be a fad, I think as more people port them, they will be closer to what a porter can get from a 372/572/462. Until that time, they will be a more available 372OE. Reliable, easily to work on, great parts availability saw for someone who doesn’t need/want ported performance from a saw. While $100 or 2 here of there is of little consequence to most, when you start getting up in the 20-30 saw range as a hobby, that adds up pretty quickly. Just my opinion.

 

[mainer_in_ak]

3 years ago I took a screen shot of the prices of a 7310pw: $900 24" bar or $850 pho. Now it's $1200 with a 24" bar.

To increase the price that much, why no walbro carb upgrade? Zama just sounds stupid.

Even though I've seen a zama carb outlast some walbros still..... zama just sound so stupid!

Wtf does zama even mean? Chinese zumba?

 

[EchoShindaiwaMakitaDolmar]

3 years ago I took a screen shot of the prices of a 7310pw: $900 24" bar or $850 pho. Now it's $1200 with a 24" bar.

To increase the price that much, why no walbro carb upgrade? Zama just sounds stupid.

Even though I've seen a zama carb outlast some walbros still..... zama just sound so stupid!

Wtf does zama even mean? Chinese zumba?

Zama stands for "a whale's vagi.."