treemonkey stuff

[singinwoodwackr]

You calling him a liar?

 

[singinwoodwackr]

I work on saws because I enjoy it. I’m retired so it ain’t an income source. If I can break even once and a while I’m great. If I don’t, o well… Some people are like that.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Ripsaw too! Whatever your thoughts/feelings are towards Billy Shine, you’ve gotta admit the guy is a marketing genius

Honestly not a fan just because they charge a premium for 50-70% of what guys on here get depending on model of saw. Also now buckin is pushing the heck out of them and yes it’s marketing, I lump a 400-500$ re-handled ax and a ripsaw ported saw in the same category. Apparently you never saw the early ads with the plained cylinder and some of the other I’m trying to sound overly smart about something I know nothing about. But this is just my opinion.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Ah, didn’t know this was your saw.

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I agree in part - however it Has to be a “gainful” endeavor otherwise what’s the sense of doing it? Thousands invested in tooling , knowledge gleaned thru years of the school of hard knocks etc - You have to make something just to cover the sandpaper, bits and inserts etc etc …

scott I’m sure runs his shop same as my uncle did his machine shop next door, while everyone is in it to make money and survive some don’t sweat the little stuff. There’s going to be jobs that don’t go right and you make little to no money on but lots of times it’s due to unexpected circumstances and the good ones won’t double or triple their prices because it’s nobody’s fault. My uncle also had jobs where he’d done the same parts for a company before and after all the initial set up was done he could turn the parts out in 1/4 the time as the first few times but price stayed the same for the products. It all averaged out for him and he always had more work than he knew what to do with along with a stellar reputation. He’s always big into getting jobs or work that lots of others wouldn’t do because they figured it was to hard or wouldn’t be profitable. My uncle always loved a challenge and did many of the tough/undesirable machining jobs, he’s told me many times over the years people telling someone something can’t be fixed is just an excuse most times. He said a person designed an built it and a person can fix it but only question is it worth the time and money to do it.

 

[Duane(Pa)]

How about we just let Scott post his content here in a handy central location. If you axe me, he can and should charge whatever he wants. There are some real dip$hits porting saws these days and they charge prices that blow my mind. Scott has a ton of experience and the results speak for themselves. To even have the word Ripsaw in Scott's thread pretty lame...

 

[stihl livin]

I agree in part - however it Has to be a “gainful” endeavor otherwise what’s the sense of doing it? Thousands invested in tooling , knowledge gleaned thru years of the school of hard knocks etc - You have to make something just to cover the sandpaper, bits and inserts etc etc …

The time spent finding the best out come of each saw gets the word out and the money comes in from that. In the end if you don’t like Scott’s work philosophy move on. Scott has built some of the best saws and his name is known around the world.

 

[pavel408]

How about we just let Scott post his content here in a handy central location.

@Admin/Moderator: Is it possible to remove all the fabulous garbage posts about porting prices etc. from this thread and keep it only for TM videos and related technical discussion?

 

[hacskaroly]

however it Has to be a “gainful” endeavor otherwise what’s the sense of doing it? Thousands invested in tooling , knowledge gleaned thru years of the school of hard knocks etc - You have to make something just to cover the sandpaper, bits and inserts etc etc …

I guess "gainful" is all in how you define it...I work on a lot of saws at my own cost, because I like to work on them, I like to learn about them and help people out, if someone insists on paying or wants to cover parts we work it out. Some people do this because they enjoy it, others make some money at it and others make a lot more money at it...doesn't mean one is right and the other is wrong or one is a better option than another. I have learned to make my sandpaper and carb cleaner go farther and the Dollar Tree has some good prices on cleaning stuff - I make it work and I enjoy it.

 

[Fabulous]

Whoa gents , let’s not get carried away here … I was just giving my opinion here on what the market will bear and what prices some outfits charge - IF anything, tree monkey should charge more what with all the time and effort involved - looks like about 8hrs (or more) on this particular 038.

 

[59billy]

I agree in part - however it Has to be a “gainful” endeavor otherwise what’s the sense of doing it?

There's also the enjoyment of the process, learning, and maybe helping somebody out.

Two examples:

I bought a saw that @Stump Shot built and sold to another guy. It developed a problem that I determined couldn't be a build problem because the previous owner had run it quite a bit. Steve offered to fix it for free, partly because he's a nice guy, but also because he wanted to understand what went wrong. (I think I broke it. He disagrees.)

It's not always about profit and loss.

For my own learning, I'm rebuilding a husky 353. When it's all said and done, I'll have about $600 (not counting new tools!) in a saw that would probably bring $300.

Maybe I'm a big dummy, but I'm having fun and learning, and maybe I can help the next big dummy who wants to build a saw.

 

[hacskaroly]

For my own learning, I'm rebuilding a husky 353. When it's all said and done, I'll have about $600 (not counting new tools!) in a saw that would probably bring $300.

Maybe I'm a big dummy, but I'm having fun and learning, and maybe I can help the next big dummy who wants to build a saw.

Don't get those of us started who have rebuilt 2100s....but I agree, it was a really fun project I learned a lot on!!

 

[Sloughfoot]

Don't get those of us started who have rebuilt 2100s....but I agree, it was a really fun project I learned a lot on!!

My reward for spending countless $$$ and countless time building mine was making 5 whole cuts before a patched air leak reopened.