The new 70cc ECHO saw

[Nighthunter]

look at the 6h 25-30m mark

 

[Red97]

Looks an awful lot like the current Shiny 757 in japan:
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Hmmm I want one of those too.

 

[pro94lt]

I want to shake the mans hand from Finland that scored that high with a 570 Husqvarna... just shows what a skilled operator can do.

 

[Wood Doctor]

I doubt I will ever sell my Echo CS-670. I simply cannot kill it, and it runs flawlessly in hot or cold weather. When I bought it, I never dreamed it would pull a 32" bar, but it does.

 

[Spike60]

Probably a decent saw, but you guys are dreaming as far as anybody actually buying these things. Be about like the chart above where 1 guy out of 61 runs an Echo.

Not exactly great timing for them either. With the 565/572 and MS462 and MS500i just around the corner, (with more models to come not long after), the Echo is going to have a hard time getting noticed.

 

[Clemsonfor]

Probably a decent saw, but you guys are dreaming as far as anybody actually buying these things. Be about like the chart above where 1 guy out of 61 runs an Echo.

Not exactly great timing for them either. With the 565/572 and MS462 and MS500i just around the corner, (with more models to come not long after), the Echo is going to have a hard time getting noticed.

Price maybe?

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[Onan18]

Price maybe?

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Probably, the new PB 8010 backpack blower sure got noticed, and price was a big factor.

 

[Spike60]

Price maybe?

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No not really.

Kind of a history lesson I've seen before...………….

Sachs-Dolmar 120si

Olympyk 970

Solo 667

Dolmar 9000

Solo 681

Olympyk 980

Olympyk 962

Dolmar 7900

Shindaiwa 757

All saws that were good enough to play in the big leagues, but being from second tier brands never made an impact in the marketplace. (Echo is a first tier brand with landscapers, but not pro saws.) I get it that if your relatively new to this, the excitement of the "new saw that's gonna get noticed" seems reasonable. We've all been drawn in by that over the years. But after 30 years of seeing this scenario play out...………...history will be repeating itself here.

Not a spoiler for Echo fans, cause you guys can still enjoy it, and you should. Just saying it will not be a factor in the market.

 

[Clemsonfor]

No not really.

Kind of a history lesson I've seen before...………….

Sachs-Dolmar 120si

Olympyk 970

Solo 667

Dolmar 9000

Solo 681

Olympyk 980

Olympyk 962

Dolmar 7900

Shindaiwa 757

All saws that were good enough to play in the big leagues, but being from second tier brands never made an impact in the marketplace. (Echo is a first tier brand with landscapers, but not pro saws.) I get it that if your relatively new to this, the excitement of the "new saw that's gonna get noticed" seems reasonable. We've all been drawn in by that over the years. But after 30 years of seeing this scenario play out...………...history will be repeating itself here.

Not a spoiler for Echo fans, cause you guys can still enjoy it, and you should. Just saying it will not be a factor in the market.

Your right as consumers like us saving $300 or 400 on a saw is a huge savings. But to a pro who makes literally 10s of thousands of dollars with a $1000 saw that difference in initial purchase price over the life of that saw means nothing. Especially on an unproven saw and brand (maybe) for that business. They can't be screwing around with testing longevity of new saws out when there trying to get a job done.

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[MarcS]

There are many history lessons of good solid brands that are long gone after being at the top of their markets too.

 

[hseII]

Here it is! Some of the first pics of the new 70cc Echo pro saw at the world logging championchips, it follows the new color sheme. I have no precise informations or numbers about it, but it is possible that its also feature the new echo EMS system (its like autotune or m-tronic) http://www.echotools.com/news/detail/id=9254?category=1164

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hopefully i can get more info's shortly

Hopefully more Mtronic & less Autotune.


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[hseII]

I want to shake the mans hand from Finland that scored that high with a 570 Husqvarna... just shows what a skilled operator can do.

FO REALZ.


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[hseII]

No not really.

Kind of a history lesson I've seen before...………….

Sachs-Dolmar 120si

Olympyk 970

Solo 667

Dolmar 9000

Solo 681

Olympyk 980

Olympyk 962

Dolmar 7900

Shindaiwa 757

All saws that were good enough to play in the big leagues, but being from second tier brands never made an impact in the marketplace. (Echo is a first tier brand with landscapers, but not pro saws.) I get it that if your relatively new to this, the excitement of the "new saw that's gonna get noticed" seems reasonable. We've all been drawn in by that over the years. But after 30 years of seeing this scenario play out...………...history will be repeating itself here.

Not a spoiler for Echo fans, cause you guys can still enjoy it, and you should. Just saying it will not be a factor in the market.

While I agree with your examples to an extent, the CS355-T & the CS2511-T are cutting into the big 2.


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[StephK87]

CS2511 T! No other saw has impressed me more in the last two years! Bad ass little saw! Much better than the 150, I still hoping for a backhandle version.

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[jacob j.]

Looks an awful lot like the current Shiny 757 in japan:
http://www.yamabiko-corp.co.jp/shindaiwa/products/category/detail/id=4213

It'd be interesting if they updated the engine with quad transfer ports, a single-ring flat-top piston, and matching combustion chamber.

No not really.

Not a spoiler for Echo fans, cause you guys can still enjoy it, and you should. Just saying it will not be a factor in the market.

Yep - it's all about brand recognition, which is how John Harvey Kellogg and our current president were/are both very famous/infamous in their times.

 

[longleaf]

I doubt the 572 will get much attention either with the 462/500 combo. Echo might need to stick with the adjustable carb. Can’t tell you how many people I know that fear electronics.

 

[mdavlee]

I doubt the 572 will get much attention either with the 462/500 combo. Echo might need to stick with the adjustable carb. Can’t tell you how many people I know that fear electronics.

I’d say the 572 will sell to a lot of people who shop price and not brand. Be coming in at $200 less than a 462 more than likely. Even if I was a die hard Stihl guy 20% is a lot of mark up for one brand over the other. Plus I think Stihl did a bad job with spring AV compared to the other brands.

 

[Wood Doctor]

One of the things I really like about this forum is that many of the members don't necessarily breathe the exhaust gas that overpriced Stihl saws tend to belch. Other good brands of chain saws exist. That's MHO.

 

[FergusonTO35]

Probably a decent saw, but you guys are dreaming as far as anybody actually buying these things. Be about like the chart above where 1 guy out of 61 runs an Echo.

Not exactly great timing for them either. With the 565/572 and MS462 and MS500i just around the corner, (with more models to come not long after), the Echo is going to have a hard time getting noticed.

It will be noticed by guys like me, who appreciate real quality at an excellent price. Looked at the Stihl section at Rural King today, they have the MS-461 for north of a grand. I'm sure Echo will price their new saw for several hundred less.

 

[FergusonTO35]

No not really.

Kind of a history lesson I've seen before...………….

Sachs-Dolmar 120si

Olympyk 970

Solo 667

Dolmar 9000

Solo 681

Olympyk 980

Olympyk 962

Dolmar 7900

Shindaiwa 757

All saws that were good enough to play in the big leagues, but being from second tier brands never made an impact in the marketplace. (Echo is a first tier brand with landscapers, but not pro saws.) I get it that if your relatively new to this, the excitement of the "new saw that's gonna get noticed" seems reasonable. We've all been drawn in by that over the years. But after 30 years of seeing this scenario play out...………...history will be repeating itself here.

Not a spoiler for Echo fans, cause you guys can still enjoy it, and you should. Just saying it will not be a factor in the market.

Without contradicting myself, I agree with you that is the most likely outcome. Stihl and Husky have a chokehold on the serious saw buyer's market and they would have to really screw up to let somebody else muscle in on it. Or, another marque would have to come up with a true once in a lifetime game changer that no one could ignore. The only saw maker that I think has even a ghost of a chance of taking some of their territory is Echo. I love Dolmar saws too, but under Makita they are riding the slow train to utter irrelevance. If Echo is smart, they ought to start courting former Dolmar dealers. Many of them carried Dolmar because they were quality products not named Stihl or Husky.