Stihl MS194T

[lehman live edge slab]

I’m not 100% now that I think about it, it’s the same as a 193. I don’t think there is more than about 5 -6 parts different. Piston, cylinder, coil with the same number on it but a letter added to it might even swap at the loss of the scan port. Muffler was same number carb looks the same with the same throat opening ect. Might be a couple differences on the inside of the carb because it had different numbers on it but it looks the same outside.

 

[Lightning Performance]

I’m not 100% now that I think about it, it’s the same as a 193. I don’t think there is more than about 5 -6 parts different. Piston, cylinder, coil with the same number on it but a letter added to it might even swap at the loss of the scan port. Muffler was same number carb looks the same with the same throat opening ect. Might be a couple differences on the inside of the carb because it had different numbers on it but it looks the same outside.

Quick question way off this op topic

I'm digging into a 191T for myself soon. Never been inside one.
I know what is in there but does anyone know that saws weak points for failures?

Planning on jacking it up some to pull a 16 or 18" bar in oak and locust with lp square. It won't ever rev with that piston and setup....it could pull better.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Weak point was nobody liked the because of the weight and balance. Underpowered for 45 cc timing advance helped muffler helps. Intake is a restriction point and don’t know what’s in it for a reed never took that far down just rebuilt carb ect so motor out of housing. But didn’t pull reed block to see if anything will help. Way I understand it’s the same rod and crank as an ms 170 so was prone to failure when they went from 019-191.

 

[Lightning Performance]

I have plenty of 018's for donor parts and 192's.
That carb intake box deal is lamb. I planed on doing the reed with a stacked two pedal. Poor work for sure and timing adavance. 47cc

Is 017 and 018 the same stroke?

 

[lehman live edge slab]

I believe so but I’ll have to check the manual pretty sure an 18 has 1mm bigger bore

 

[lehman live edge slab]

It’s unfortunate but I think it will be more than it’s worth if your trying to beat a modded 200t with the 191. I still may mess more and see what happens got the saw for the tree service of eBay as like new for 150$ now I know why. They used it once or twice and it sits so I’m sure I can take it and do whatever I want to it to make it usable

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Well looks like the 019/191 used the same cranks as the 017/018 later models through the 170/180. I’m pretty sure the old 017/018 used smaller 8 mm wrist pin instead of 10mm. My info says the 191 has an updated limited coil so maybe an 019 coil will help out some too. Not sure how the rod that’s designed for 30-35cc will take the abuse of a modded 47cc top end.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

 

[Lightning Performance]

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The rod will be fine. I have 10mm 018c cranks.
Unlimited coil is not what is needs. That will be asking for trouble.

 

[Lightning Performance]

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Your page two is not 191 specs. 191 is 46mm as you know.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Your page two is not 191 specs. 191 is 46mm as you know.

Yes I know sent an 019t page for comparison of what 12cc got you

 

[Lightning Performance]

Yes I know sent an 019t page for comparison of what 12cc got you

We all know this saw is a heavy turd stock. Piston weight is the problem.

 

[chipper1]

Did you ever get a chance to compare them.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

The 194t is stronger in stock and with opened muffler/timing added

 

[sawmikaze]

The 194t is stronger in stock and with opened muffler/timing added

I second this.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

Which is good because I don’t think I’ve seen any 193’s since spring. I told all the tree guys to change over to the 194’s even if they had 193’s left

 

[lehman live edge slab]

If nobody has one maybe I’ll barrow a 194 from the tree service to let guys try at Kevin’s. I’m tempted to buy one of my own just for pruning apple trees and deer stands ext.

 

[lehman live edge slab]

And as far as videos don’t know if it will ever happen YouTube seems like it’s being stupid now a-days and suspending accounts all the time ect. Would be nice it there was a way to load them directly her on the forum.

 

[chipper1]

The 194t is stronger in stock and with opened muffler/timing added

Cool.
I ran @brad ruch 194 and it seemed to run well, just never had them side by side.

Which is good because I don’t think I’ve seen any 193’s since spring. I told all the tree guys to change over to the 194’s even if they had 193’s left

I still have a rear handled 193 or 2 can't remember, it's a great little saw when I don't want to trash the 200 rear handle.

And as far as videos don’t know if it will ever happen YouTube seems like it’s being stupid now a-days and suspending accounts all the time ect. Would be nice it there was a way to load them directly her on the forum.

I lost mine a while ago(this spring?) when they changed their algorithm or something, but they gave it back to me. I must be obeying properly because I still have it.
I like it, guess it's a 192 now that I see the title lol.

 

[brad ruch]

Stock 194T with one tank on it.

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