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Hey you young (OPE subscribed time)fellas, If you really want to make this site great again. Look over all the resources of forums and threads. Chainsaws by brands, race and rice burners, just about anything for saws, chains, and porters. We have these tools to visit and educate already. They just need utilized and I'm sure participation will grow as needed. If your working around the house on projects, yeah it's there too. For sale and want ads are my favorite. A full fuggin plethora of reading materials, even recipes. So to me this site is tits. We still need mods though and I'm sure a regroup and plan are in the works for future leadership. You don't need to visit other sites it's already here. Just utilize it. One more thing for the Husqvarna builders looking for electronic IPL's check out what @exCanuck offers from HL Supply. They are all there and free. And no he didn't pay me to plug this either LOL!
 

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Kinda doubt it the chainsaw forum doesn’t look like it has super heavy traffic and the vast majority of the riff raff is still here
I have been a member about as long as a fart in the wind, but reading through lots of pages here really got me thinking.

I’ve written Andy Cohen of bravo about a new series based on the forum.

Please submit your resume to be on the cast.
Are you trying to subvert (DISTRACT) everybody from the oil Threads to holyWOOD?
 

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My take on forum direction is this. There ain’t one, it’s several given the members that currently exist here. On one hand you have the OG OPE guys that want it to go back to like it was before 2020, which were the good old days. Started by many Gen Xers who don’t have feelings or care about hurting feelings or calling people gay or homo, or anything that generally pisses off anyone who has feelings. The newer members want no part of that for whatever reason, and there in lies the problem. The newer members want the tech/info without all that brought it to the forum, that doesn’t make it right or wrong it just is what it is. However that is who build the site and all its history, like it or not, because without all that there is no OPE.

On the other hand it can’t go back to what it was because many of the productive members who were booted from here by Randy or the ones that just got sick of the double standard Randy imposed on the forum ain’t never coming back. Imagine making Stump a moderator and then him moderating the dynamic douche oh’s of Mustang Mike and RI Chevy only to be smacked down for doing so. People get put off by it and leave, next thing you know Randy gets fed up with both and then ends up banning RI Chevy. Now you lost productive members because Randy picked winners and losers on the forum. That happened over and over again to the point where we are where we’re at now with very few build threads, very few interesting conceptual projects like Eggshooters oil testing, new GTG’s being created etc. I don’t bring all this up to dump on Randy, he dumped all over himself. I state it simply as the way not to moderate a forum as it will kill one quicker than anything will. The single biggest thing for this site to overcome is the 2 factions that remain on the site, +Randy and -Randy. It doesn’t matter which camp you are in, but this ain’t ever going away here, or at least anytime soon.

Lastly, there is only so many times you can repeat the same thing. I could post a 60cc class 2 series Husky build, but why? There is like 150 of them on the internet in print and tube-U videos. Porters who do it for a living got tired of getting ripped off, then the hacks started showing up which was an entirely different and unnecessary tangent the forum took. Myself, I went to a GTG, found out I like going to them, got to run different porters saws, figured out which model’s and porters I liked and shelled out my money. Can’t buy all the equipment and tooling to port 3-4 saws for what you can pay a professional to do it for you, which is what many new members think they are going to get to see here.

Myself, I’m of the minimal moderation theory, while not popular, there is as others have mentioned a certain amount of self moderation required to belong to any site. If you can’t handle the results of an election or the direction society or the world in general flows a saw forum certainly isn’t suitable for you.

With all that stated above, my take is that this site will never be able to be what it once was, too much has happened and too many camps of thought or allegiances to overcome. A clean break and a fresh start would be the most logical choice but also the most painful and time consuming. The new site admin here has a tough road ahead, but given the right direction and input it could be doable and enjoyable for all.

RI Chevy got sent to band camp, by Stumpy via Randy?
 

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Wow! It's hit the fan since last I checked. I liked BOTH of the now former mods. I never knew them to be perfect individuals, but they did a thankless job. Now I see a bunch of supposedly grown @ss men doing their best to imitate teenage girls on social media. I did what I could to find out the back story and am sure I missed stuff, but to reference stuff from 2017-18 seems a bit petty. Also, if someone asks a simple question, why not actually answer it. Simply referencing the search function is a dick move. It's been mentioned more than once, but without the FULL context of the issues and what has happened there will be no getting better. I doubt that will happen because it is human nature to add opinion to fact. Wouldn't it be easier to forgive and move on?

As for the decline of usage .......I think that's par for the course. I bet it's very cyclical on forums. Also, people have life changes that affect the amount of time they devote to these forums. If they devolve into these types of crap they devote even less time to them.

You guys have a great day.........and I mean that.
 

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Wow! It's hit the fan since last I checked. I liked BOTH of the now former mods. I never knew them to be perfect individuals, but they did a thankless job. Now I see a bunch of supposedly grown @ss men doing their best to imitate teenage girls on social media. I did what I could to find out the back story and am sure I missed stuff, but to reference stuff from 2017-18 seems a bit petty. Also, if someone asks a simple question, why not actually answer it. Simply referencing the search function is a dick move. It's been mentioned more than once, but without the FULL context of the issues and what has happened there will be no getting better. I doubt that will happen because it is human nature to add opinion to fact. Wouldn't it be easier to forgive and move on?

As for the decline of usage .......I think that's par for the course. I bet it's very cyclical on forums. Also, people have life changes that affect the amount of time they devote to these forums. If they devolve into these types of crap they devote even less time to them.

You guys have a great day.........and I mean that.
Unfortunately in this instance the decline usage came about so to certain actions made by a moderator. That said your post is well said.
 

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Unfortunately in this instance the decline usage came about so to certain actions made by a moderator. That said your post is well said.
I dont know if you can really say that. Forums of all types have declined in usage with the advent of Facebook groups.
Although banning probably didnt help. IMO the only way a person should get banned is for scamming other members, period.
 

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Can you simply provide proof or is this a case of anecdotal evidence supported by opinion. I like proof. Facts>Feelings.

I'm definitely not looking for an argument, but in the world I live in saying something doesn't make it so.



I'll say it again, it's so much easier to forgive than to fling poo. Poo flingers ALWAYS have some on themselves
 

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I guess my point was, how would you know where we go from here if you don’t know where we’ve been.
"Too much looking backward ... is bad for progress." - Henry Ward Beecher

I don't drive myself around by looking in the rearview mirror. I am not going to dispute that we can learn from the past but by making such a big deal of all the crap that happened in the past the "core" group of members on OPE will never be able to find a way forward that will work.

As a newer member that hasn't taken the time to read through every ...... single ..... post since 2015 I absolutely do not know every detail of everything that has so many members so worked up. It's all the worked up members insisting that everyone knows all that stuff that are going to hold this place, or the next place, back. Almost everyone that's chimed in to this thread, weather we're in the know or now, has given suggestions about how to nudge the ship back on course. Suggestions that really don't need to have lots of backstory stuff to be developed. Such as -> if you pay with F&F you may get burnt. Duh that's an obvious one and seems to be a partial cause to the most recent blow up. No one likes their money somewhere they don't want it to be. Having a staff that has no financial gain to be had by being a staff member is another obvious one that doesn't need to be founded by past mistakes. It's just common sense to remove all potential issues before they're issues. The owner of the site is a business owner and OPE has propelled some business his way. I have no issue with that as I discovered HL Supply because of OPE. There is a fine line to walk between that and some of the leadership and their own personal businesses. The rest of us new guys that have given suggestions have based them on what we've seen since we started following along on OPE and very few of them would be improved by knowing every single little detail of everything that's happened on OPE since 2015.
 
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