If was a joke i took it wrong i guess ,this thread just kind of got under my skin ,felt like the ganging up on a guy like used to happen at the other site,maybe i saw that wrong also,maybe not ,just how i saw it though ,i would have stood up for myself also the way he did ,Ben is a good guy and does not normally call people names unless there was a good reason . It was not my fight to jump into ,so i should have stayed out of it ,Just hate to see the atmosphere here there was at the other place with negativity starting up .The mods here have a tough enough job without this bs so lets put it behind us