MS462C - 572XP Comparison

[p61 western]

Crickets...lol

Pics lol.

 

[chipper1]

That ain't *s-word. I gots a minivan with a 6speed and 27 fugging cup holders and some other kid friendly garbage.

You just want me to post that video again .

 

[sawfun]

Hey, enough of this Ford BS. I wanna talk about 455 SD Pontiac's for a while. Steel cranks FTW!

Those 428's weren't none too week, especially with stage 3 & 4 heads. Stage 5 heads, well I'd like to have seen those. I had a 68 Firebird with dual quad afb's that ran low 11's very consistanly, all day long in the early 80's. Also had a 55 GMC 4 × 4 big window with a 428 tri power and even had the factory cast iron headers. Those were the only two Pontiacs I'd ever had, but they were damn impressive ones.

 

[MG porting]

Hey, enough of this Ford BS. I wanna talk about 455 SD Pontiac's for a while. Steel cranks FTW!

lol no. they run OK with a blower or twin turbos .

 

[psuiewalsh]

Buick 455 stage 2. Light weight for displacement like the Stihl 462.

 

[sawfun]

Buick 455 stage 2. Light weight for displacement like the Stihl 462.

High nickle big Caddies are very, very light. 600 lbs/500 cubes. Though they never came with any stage type heads unfortunately.

 

[Grjfer]

That ain't *s-word. I gots a minivan with a 6speed and 27 fugging cup holders and some other kid friendly garbage.

Stow n go ain't no joke.

 

[MustangMike]

I'm sure there were a lot of good motors, but in the drag racing history books of the day, the dominance was by the Ford 427 and Chrysler Hemi.

 

[Onan18]

I'm sure there were a lot of good motors, but in the drag racing history books of the day, the dominance was by the Ford 427 and Chrysler Hemi.

No love for the 409 Chevy and 421 Super Duty?

 

[maulhead]

No love for the 409 Chevy and 421 Super Duty?

It's too bad pontiac put the 421 in led-sled, comparable sized dodge or plymouth with a 413 or 426 wedge, was almost 1,000 lbs lighter of a car.

1961-1963 pontiac are great cars and all, just so heavy....compared to a mopar in their class.

 

[MustangMike]

Two more real nice motors, but did not reach the level of the other two, at least not in the pro circles. Two of the best engine builders of the day (for drag racing) would only build one of two motors … the Chrysler Hemi or the 427 Ford. They dominate the high end of the sport.

(The builders were Ed Pink and Keith Black)

 

[MustangMike]

It's too bad pontiac put the 421 in led-sled, comparable sized dodge or plymouth with a 413 or 426 wedge, was almost 1,000 lbs lighter of a car.

1961-1963 pontiac are great cars and all, just so heavy....compared to a mopar in their class.

For the longest time the Big auto makers had an unwritten rule … they would not put an engine larger than 400 ci in less than a full size car. That is why so many of the mid size cars had 383, 389/400, 396, 390, etc. Heck, even the 1965 Big Block Vette was a 396 (the 427 was in 66 + 67). Then independents started building things like the Yanko Camaros, 427 Cobras, etc, and the walls came crumbling down.

 

[chipper1]

Two more real nice motors, but did not reach the level of the other two, at least not in the pro circles. Two of the best engine builders of the day (for drag racing) would only build one of two motors … the Chrysler Hemi or the 427 Ford. They dominate the high end of the sport.

Depends on what sport your talking about, and what country .

 

[MustangMike]

Depends on what sport your talking about, and what country .

So, what engine (of the day) did the 427 Ford not compete against (and win)???

 

[maulhead]

For the longest time the Big auto makers had an unwritten rule … they would not put an engine larger than 400 ci in less than a full size car. That is why so many of the mid size cars had 383, 389/400, 396, 390, etc. Heck, even the 1965 Big Block Vette was a 396 (the 427 was in 66 + 67). Then independents started building things like the Yanko Camaros, 427 Cobras, etc, and the walls came crumbling down.

Your talking mid-late 60's, I was thinking Joe was talking about early 60's, since he mentioned 409's and 421's....pre 1964-65ish...

 

[maulhead]

So, what engine (of the day) did the 427 Ford not compete against (and win)???

A plymouth of coarse...

 

[MustangMike]

Hemi's were strong, but then came the Thunderbolt Fairlane's, and A/FX Mustangs (like Gas Rhonda), and the Mickey Thompson Funny Car.

Both motors had lots of wins in both 1/4 mile and Nascar.

I remember seeing a 68 Hemi Cuda that was a Natl record holder, and was running high 9s. Then the next time at that track, a 67 427 Fairlane dominated it's class, even beating the brand new 464 Chevelle (that was beating all of it's competition till that point).

Lots of good times.

 

[maulhead]

Hemi's were strong, but then came the Thunderbolt Fairlane's, and A/FX Mustangs (like Gas Rhonda), and the Mickey Thompson Funny Car.

Both motors had lots of wins in both 1/4 mile and Nascar.

I remember seeing a 68 Hemi Cuda that was a Natl record holder, and was running high 9s. Then the next time at that track, a 67 427 Fairlane dominated it's class, even beating the brand new 464 Chevelle (that was beating all of it's competition till that point).

Lots of good times.

I'm pretty sure, mopar had the 1st altered wheelbase cars. AFX (A class Factory Experimental) cars were the birth of funny cars, a few years later....

https://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/classic-muscle-cars/1965-plymouth-factory-altered-wheelbase.htm

mopar started altering wheelbases for better weight distribution, and others soon followed, then the funny car was born.

 

[chipper1]

So, what engine (of the day) did the 427 Ford not compete against (and win)???

I guess when you put "of the day" in there it changes a thing or two, but I was also thinking on the same lines as maulhead, and more factory cars.
There were many sweet specialty cars in that era, I would like to take an ac cobra out for a spin some day.
Such as the 68 hurst hemi dart.

 

[maulhead]

Hemi's were strong, but then came the Thunderbolt Fairlane's, and A/FX Mustangs (like Gas Rhonda), and the Mickey Thompson Funny Car.

Both motors had lots of wins in both 1/4 mile and Nascar.

I remember seeing a 68 Hemi Cuda that was a Natl record holder, and was running high 9s. Then the next time at that track, a 67 427 Fairlane dominated it's class, even beating the brand new 464 Chevelle (that was beating all of it's competition till that point).

Lots of good times.